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    Are Debian’s tasks optimal?
    Submitted by Zomb on Friday, July 12, 2002 – 11:12
    Debian

    Too bloated, they need splitting
    20% (171 votes)
       
    Desktop task needs splitting
    14% (116 votes)
       
    Perfect
    5% (45 votes)
       
    I’ve never used tasksel
    39% (323 votes)
     
    Tasks?
    22% (181 votes)
       

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    Subject: Tasksel is a pretty good starting point
    Author: lovelace
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/16 – 11:34
    I use tasksel, but not for installations. For each interresting task, I check the info page to see which packages are included. Then, I search for each of the packages on packages.debian.org. Using this approach, I can determine if a package is really needed and I can find alternative packages and/or recommended add-ons to a base package. Finally, I apt-get install all the packages I need.

    For newbies, I think tasksel is a pretty good solution, at least better than dselect!

    If you want to look at an excellent package selector, you should try Slackware. It even lets you select which base packages you want. However, last time I tested it (7.something), it didn’t care about dependencies and I guess it still don’t. It was not as stable as Woody either, so I’ll probably stick to Debian for the rest of my Linux life.

    Woody rocks dripping as we say in Sweden 🙂

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    Subject: You can have that easier…
    Author: ex-bart
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/16 – 14:00
    by using aptitude. Aptitude sorts the Packages into a tree with several top nodes:

    — Installed Packages
    — Not Installed Packages
    — Virtual Packages
    — Tasks

    You can then simply browse the Tasks-subtree, and install the tasks you want, or single packages from some tasks.

    I believe you still need tasksel installed so aptitude knows the task-descriptions.

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    Subject: usefull even when not installed
    Author: hokanomono
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/15 – 15:43
    I rarely install task packages because there are always some dependencies which i don’t need, however i find them very useful to find out about interesting packages. I think there should be even more task-packages.
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    Subject: Never worked
    Author: Trevelyan
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/14 – 21:51
    I’ve been running Debian Woody since last summer and tasksel has never worked for me. In fact i’ve installed woody on a few machines since and non have had tasksel work.
    I’ve always used apt-get, eg to intall kde i did apt-cache search kde | grep ^k; went through the list and copied all kde looking stuff to a text file….

    excalibur:~# tasksel
    No tasks found on this system.
    Did you update your available file?

    If you know why, or how to fix this i’d like to know.

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    Subject: No tasks found
    Author: ferrao
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/15 – 14:29
    That happend to me to!
    It was a good thing, because it forced me to use dselect/apt 🙂

    The problem is that your available file does not have any task field in package descriptions. That happend to me when i got an ISO from one of debian non-official mirrors…

    Just point apt to some of the official mirrors, do an update and you should be ok!

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    Subject: Yup…
    Author: robot101
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/15 – 01:36
    Easy way: go into dselect and pick the update option (assuming you have the apt method selected)
    What this actually does: apt-cache dumpavail | dpkg –merge-avail

    Robster is a monkey
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    Subject: hmm…
    Author: xtifr
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/14 – 12:10
    This isn’t a poll, this is an editorial. What if I think the tasks are insufficiently bloated (too small and limited)? What if I don’t mind the Desktop task, but think that there is (another) one that should be split? What if I think they’re the right size but have the wrong packages? What if I think there should just be more (or fewer) tasks?

    Not that I have anything against editorials…

    Actually, my main complaint is not with the size (or number) of tasks, it’s with the limitations of tasksel. If the tasks weren’t so all-or-nothing, then maybe bloating wouldn’t be such an issue. (Not that I’m volunteering to write tasksel v2. Yet.)

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    Subject: answers are..
    Author: joeyh
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/15 – 04:53
    a) mail me
    b) aptitude


    see shy jo

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    Subject: I agree
    Author: robot101
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/14 – 13:54
    This should be subject to a discussion on a mailing list (heh heh heh) or someone implementing something different/better. Not a throwaway poll on DP just because Drupal lets people submit their own. =)

    Robster is a monkey
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    Subject: Discussing on a public mailin
    Author: Zomb
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/14 – 15:59
    Discussing on a public mailing list would not help much. I think, we can talk as much as we want, in AJs opinion, the tasks are mostly technical issues and the only purpose is to get some kind of running system with known packages. So things wont change. I just wanted to see wheter people are really happy with the current situation or not. Apparently, they are not.
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    Subject: where’s the junk option?
    Author: Caoilte
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/13 – 21:56
    where’s the junk option?
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    Subject: My doctor has forbidden me
    Author: robot101
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/13 – 23:09
    Joy doesn’t want me perpetuating the CowboyNeal/DP-as-slashdot meme, so I’m not gonna add one. *sniff* =)


    Robster is a monkey

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    Subject: Phew.
    Author: daniel@raging.dropbear.id.au
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/14 – 13:44
    And thank christ for that, tho I think the KDE 3.0 story already exposed DP readers as a bunch of cheap, Slashdot-quality trolls. 🙂
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    Subject: lol
    Author: Caoilte
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/14 – 21:37
    But I was serious!

    ‘Junk’ is one of the TaskSel options.

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    Subject: But thankfully…
    Author: robot101
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/14 – 13:52
    That no longer applies to the staff. 😉

    Robster is a monkey
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