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    Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Submitted by robster on Saturday, April 06, 2002 – 17:54
    As the probable release date for woody draws closer, much work still needs to be carried out. Help is needed with testing the boot floppies, writing/translating the release notes and installation manual. Feedback regarding these should be sent to the debian-boot list.

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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Sunday, 2002/04/14 – 23:46
    If you need translation from english to french: nico@nicedays.net
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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/04/10 – 11:21
    I could translate to french and/or german. proust@informatik.uni-freiburg.de

    raph

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    Subject: Two Mo’ Cents Sucka Foo’
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Monday, 2002/04/08 – 07:58
    I appreciate a really stable release for my server and the likes. But if you really find yourself in need of some of the latest and greatest then change “potato” or “woody” in your /etc/apt/source.list to “testing”.

    Anyways, thats my plan. I want kde three and mozilla 1.

    So yeah.

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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Sunday, 2002/04/07 – 16:53
    If you need some translations from english to Portuguese, I’m here: a35352@correio.uminho.ptsl0th, Miguel Afonso
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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Saturday, 2002/04/06 – 20:23
    apache 2.0, mozilla 1.0 and debian 3.0 all within a month or two. What’s next perl 6? haha i don’t think so.
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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Sunday, 2002/04/07 – 11:02
    I really don’t WANT any of those new packages in Debian until they’ve been proven stable. By the time the next Debian comes around we’ll have decent packages, and the software will have stabilised (first month of any new software brings out a gazillion bugs the developers didn’t find in in-housed testing).
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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: piman
    Date: Saturday, 2002/04/06 – 23:11
    Although it seems good, this is actually a huge disadvantage for Debian. It means we’re not going to see GNOME 2, KDE 3, Mozilla 1.0, Apache 2.0, XFree 4.2, etc, until the next release of Debian – which could be a long ways off. And even if the next release of Debian is only, say, 6 months off, that’s going to be 6 months of listening to reviewers talk about how far behind Debian is.

    (Note: I’m not saying the release should be delayed, and these packages put in – I know releases approach release state asymptotically, and eventually (e.g. May 1st) someone has to bite the bullet and release. But it just seems very unlucky this time.)

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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Integral
    Date: Sunday, 2002/04/07 – 14:23
    Don’t worry, this is traditional. Debian people would become disoriented and confused if other major software projects didn’t release shortly before we did. 🙂

    Daniel

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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: hildeb
    Date: Sunday, 2002/04/07 – 08:54
    You seem to forget that Debian unstable is about as stable as “other distros” while being even more up-to-date.
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    Subject: Wait longer?
    Author: dale
    Date: Sunday, 2002/04/07 – 02:45
    I agree with ‘piman’ yes Debian will be
    behind many other distro’s but the packages
    are far better tested. I better to think
    in terms of how far “Potato” is behind, it doesn’t
    matter if Debian isn’t on the bleeding edge.
    Debian is unique for other reasons, including:

    1. Community built distro (by the people for the people)
    2. Highly tested and stable.
    3. Free.
    4. Debian package systems.

    Point #2 means we can never be at the latest, that’s
    what the ‘unstable’ branch is for.
    Its been TOO long already, the number one
    priority is to make a release.
    The number two priority is to shorten the length
    of time between releases. Aiming for 6 months.
    Maybe 3 months development, 3 months making stable,
    testing, bug fixing, document updates.
    This doesn’t mean all work on unstable has to ever
    stop.
    I would love to see KDE 3 etc in Debian, but if it means
    months of work on packaging, testing and so on. Then
    no, I’d rather see Debian Woody released.
    And don’t forget many of these new things are point
    zero releases. Which often means the public gets
    a go at testing it too, its not that the developers
    didn’t to their work, its just that it can’t compare
    to a whole community testing it. This is what makes
    open source such good quality compared to many
    companies working in a closed source development
    model.

    One more thing can I say when Woody is released we
    all go and get CD’s and at the same time make
    a donation to Debian.

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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Sunday, 2002/04/07 – 00:05
    New software is always going to be released. Anytime you release anyting, the minute it is out the door, it is ‘old’. Waiting for GNOME, etc to be considered stable, might add a few more moths before it is released. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions, and this is one of those times. Debian should release Woody now, (May 1st) and then worry about adding this stuff, hell, with all these major updates, maybe Debian will ‘catch up’ with the other distros in version numbers ;).
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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/04/09 – 14:13
    It could help to split debian in a ‘base release’, no more than one CD of essential stuff,
    and ‘adds on’ like ‘Debian for Servers’, ‘Debian for Desktops’, ‘Debian for Developers’ (or even smaller: Debian-KDE, Debian-Gnome, etc … ). These adds-on could have more than one release, by re-building newer stuff against the same base release. They could also have independent release schedule, except than when a new base release is issued, all have to update.
    It would maybe result in a distro more up-to date than Stable (especially one year or so after release), and more stable than Testing (since the packages that usually bring caos in your system when broken are the ones which will go in the base release, like libc).

    I know I can’t think half of the problems this idea would raise. But since there is at least one debian developer which thinks the same (read in debian-devel), maybe it is not so bad :-).

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    Subject: Re: Call for testers/translators/proof readers
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Saturday, 2002/04/06 – 21:04
    KDE 3.0 is here and Gnome 2.0 is scheduled May 1st too.
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