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    Come out, come out wherever you are! (AKA DPL elections 2002)
    Submitted by robster on Thursday, March 07, 2002 – 19:16
    Those of you who have spent the last year hibernating under a rock will be pleased to note that it is that time of year again, yes, the elections for the Debian Project leader are upon us. The nomination period has come to an end and the three nominees are Bdale Garbee, Raphaël Hertzog and Branden Robinson.
    The Debian consitution and electoral system is a fundamental part of Debian, if you are interested please read the constitution.

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    Subject: Re: Come out, come out wherever you are!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/03/08 – 05:48
    Does anyone else see the irony in the “Tell them to RTFM or feed them to sendmail” taking first place in the current poll, and JoeBuck’s remarks, echoed by the Anonymous posters here?

    “Nevertheless, Branden’s lack of diplomacy and his habit of heaping abuse on people who ask him entirely legitimate questions suggests that he doesn’t have the right personality for a leadership role. He’d be put in the position of answering questions from outsiders in the name of the Debian project, and many of these questions will be ignorant ones (from trade press reporters, for example). It’s unclear whether he has the required patience, tact, and diplomatic skills.”

    Does that mean that the Debian Project Leader should do as DebianPlanet readers say, and not as they do? 🙂

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    Subject: Re: Come out, come out wherever you are!
    Author: xtifr
    Date: Saturday, 2002/03/09 – 08:58
    I didn’t vote for RTFM in the poll. Does that mean that I’m still allowed to express an opinion on this matter? Or am I to be tarred with your “what DebianPlanet readers say” brush too, just because I was outvoted? Tell us, tell us, oh mighty arbiter of manners. 🙂
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    Subject: Re: Come out, come out wherever you are!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/03/08 – 14:53
    I imagine that many voted for the “RTFM” option (like me) because there was no simple “No”. That was the option closest to “No. Keep exim as default.”
    Voting for that option doesn’t mean that I lack diplomacy skills, it just means that it was the option closest to my point of view. Isn’t there supposed to a warning saying that these polls shouldn’t be taken too seriously?
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    Subject: Well, yes
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/03/08 – 08:25
    I’m not sure how your point follows from the rest of your comment but yes, our elected leaders should do as we say, not as we do. We choose them because they have the time, the skill, and hopefully the integrity to do the leadership jobs we won’t or can’t do outselves. That whole division of labor thing. I don’t want my mechanic to do as I do either, or he’ll fuck up my car just as badly as I would.
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    Subject: Yahoo news
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/03/08 – 00:32
    has a story on voting irregularities in the debian elections here. An interesting read, to say the least.
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    Subject: dont look at above link
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/03/08 – 02:44
    its the goat.cx guy
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    Subject: Re: Yahoo news
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/03/08 – 00:34
    Thanks for the link. I’m not sure whether I’ll be voting this time, after reading that article. Although I’d like to investigate the claims myself…
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    Subject: Branden?
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/03/07 – 20:30
    I’m trying to decide whether to not vote for Branden because he’s a prick, or to vote for him because it increases the chance that he’ll have no time to package XFree86 and someone competent will be given the job.
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    Subject: Re: Branden?
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/03/07 – 23:14
    not to mention that he won’t give up his role as SPI treasurer if elected DPL
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    Subject: Re: Branden?
    Author: JoeBuck
    Date: Thursday, 2002/03/07 – 22:49
    It’s kind of prick-like to anonymously accuse someone of being a prick, and it’s completely
    unfair to claim that Branden isn’t competent to
    handle XFree86, considering that he’s been doing
    it successfully for a long time.

    Nevertheless, Branden’s lack of diplomacy and his
    habit of heaping abuse on people who ask him
    entirely legitimate questions suggests that he
    doesn’t have the right personality for a leadership
    role. He’d be put in the position of answering
    questions from outsiders in the name of the Debian
    project, and many of these questions will be
    ignorant ones (from trade press reporters, for
    example). It’s unclear whether he has the required patience, tact, and diplomatic skills.

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    Subject: Re: Branden?
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Saturday, 2002/03/09 – 07:00
    Taking 3 months to package it when RPM distros and BSDs have had it in only a few weeks is successfully packaging it?

    Successful compared to who?

    An 80 year old chinese woman?

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    Subject: Re: Branden?
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/03/07 – 22:46
    Branden might be a total asshole, but that doesn’t stop the fact that he knows what he’s doing.

    I don’t know what problems you have with his XFree86 packages, but chances are, it’s not his fault there’s a problem.

    Granted, I probably wouldn’t vote for Branden as the DPL, becasue the DPL needs diplomacy, and Branden has about as much diplomacy has a rabid wolf in a chicken coop.

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    Subject: Re: Branden?
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/03/07 – 21:09
    hear, hear
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