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    Stability (Score: 2, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30 @ 22:26:19 BST

    The word ‘stable’ is a bit ambiguous, and I wish the submitter would have been a bit more clear on this point. (Including sources to backup the statements).

    It can mean (at least) either of these two things:

    • A system that does not change very much. No bleeding edge stuff, but conservative selection of packages. (True for Debian ‘stable’, not true for ‘unstable’ or even ‘testing’).
    • A system that is crash-resistant. This of course depends very much on the kernel and basic libraries in use, restricting direct hardware access from user programs (such as X, window managers), etc.

    I have long wanted to try out OpenBSD (and other *BSDs), but so far I have not seen the incentive to invest time in installing and getting familiar with it. The one thing that would make me do so is if there were opportunities to learn about unique design concepts (esp. wrt. security) not found elsewhere. “Secure by default” is nothing special, in that any system can be made as secure by simply disabling services and replacing bugridden packages with more secure alternatives. I am looking for something more along the lines of cryptographic filesystems, implementations of access control (role based administration, say), finding ways to protect machines where physical access cannot be avoided, and so on. Does anyone have a clue what OpenBSD might have to offer in such areas?

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    Re: Why Debian is still not as secure as OpenBSD ? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, May 31 @ 14:17:17 BST

    short answer: no.

    OpenBSD dosen’t make any big changes and due to the code audit the code is mostly bug free. Stability is a part of good security. On the other hand there are more hardware drivers for Linux, and the linux drivers tend to be a little more tolerant of bad/flaky hardware. So like Linux, OpenBSD is rock solid if you have good hardware.

    I consider OpenBSD more stable then Debian. OpenBSD is like Debian/stable, but it is no more then 6 months old.

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    Re: Why Debian is still not as secure as OpenBSD ? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, May 31 @ 20:44:33 BST

    you say you think BSD is more stable but you don’t back that up. care to do so?

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