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    Woody release status
    Posted on Saturday, June 01 @ 14:05:58 BST

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 0, Redundant)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, June 01 @ 19:31:43 BST

    Thanks for the en-joy-able info!

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 3, Insighful)
    by mbp on Saturday, June 01 @ 20:01:13 BST
    (User Info) http://wtf.dk/hp/

    Finally an update about the release, this should happen more often. A whole month without a status update is not fair to the users and developers, in my opinion.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 2, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, June 01 @ 22:19:06 BST

    Putting woody back in the testing cycle would make sense. It could take a few more months before they have this stuff sorted out. They might as well put updated packages in woody in the meantime.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 0, Troll)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, June 02 @ 02:14:19 BST

    *sigh* eventually even the zealots are gonna have a hard time convincing themselves that this is acceptable...

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 0, Redundant)
    by tarzeau (gurkan@linuks.mine.nu) on Sunday, June 02 @ 08:04:18 BST
    (User Info) http://www.linuks.mine.nu

    src=http://apt-get.mine.nu/woody-holycow-debian.png>

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 1, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, June 02 @ 08:23:14 BST

    What with Redhat's patenting of GPL code, and SuSE, Caldera, TurboLinux, and Conectiva releasing a dodgy per-seat-license distribution (UnitedLinux using GPL code, Debian is looking good quite now...even with the delay and limitations of Woody.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, June 02 @ 08:38:53 BST

    Does anybody know or can make a qualified guess about when kde3 debs will be officialy ready for unstable/testing? I didnt quite manage to install the experimental debs, and Im not really sure about their stability.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 2, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, June 02 @ 20:51:07 BST

    Ok this is something always gets me. They spend all this time making sure the packages are 100% perfect...but the software is filled with all these old bugs and issues that are since fixed.

    Ok, i guess what i mean is having absolutly perfect packages of software with old bugs worth all the delay?

    The packages are perfect but the stuff in the packages is filled with old bugs and problems that are fixed in the newer version.

    The packages in potato are nice, but the software is so old and crusty that it basically cancels out the perfect packaging.

    No matter how perfect the packaging is if the software in the package is an old buggy peice of junk then it doesn't do anybody any good.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 3, Funny)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, June 02 @ 23:31:03 BST

    Woody becoming stable? Surely many bugs are fixed upstream? Thus, some packages that make it into Sid are more stable than their versions in Woody?

    Why not scrap Woody, and put Sid into testing. LOL.

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    wrong approach (Score: 4, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Monday, June 03 @ 08:45:06 BST

    Delaying woody for the benefit of non-mainstream architectures is the wrong decision.

    If Debian really were user-centric, it would release woody on i386 and PPC (and whatever else already works) and then release to the other architectures when possible. Consider the options:

    1) Delay 100% of users for over a month.

    2) Delay 2% of users for over a month.

    Which is the user-centric choice?

    It is not true that anyone who wants to continue at the bleeding edge can use unstable. Maintainers of many of the most important packages (XFree86, OpenLDAP) have stated that they will not do any more updates until woody is released. By and large, Debian has been frozen for over a month and is getting less attractive by the day.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Monday, June 03 @ 13:33:32 BST

    Time to switch to gentoo.

    I thought Debian would be my last stop on the distro search and after using it for 2 years it looked like it was.

    That whole time and not one new release. Part of the benefit of open source is the fast pace of development and with debian i'm just not getting that advantage using this outdated stuff. *shrug*

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 0, Funny)
    by Anonymous on Monday, June 03 @ 13:41:06 BST

    I want debian support for my commadore 64 and 8086!

    Get porting you bastards!

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    Re: What is all the fuss about ? (Score: 0, Redundant)
    by mr_jimmybob (mr_jimmybob@hotmail.com) on Monday, June 03 @ 22:44:42 BST
    (User Info) http://members.lycos.co.uk/datalogide/

    I really can't see what the all the fuss is about.

    You can run woody with unofficial CD's, update to it, run sid if you want,... it is one of the most flexible distros.

    Its not as if we had no access to it until it was oficially released.

    Most of the people fussing about the lacking of X Free 4.2 dont even need it.

    KDE 3 you can install if you want (see urls in other KDE3 raves on DP)

    I have tested many linux distros and I still find debian the best choice (obviously a personal comment, but hey, all this flaming and trolling is too)

    Id rather wait a bit more, or have more tested packages than cutting edge features (that you can have if you want anyway!)

    I can't see any developers reading all this ranting and raving (its gotta be kinda depressing, seeing all your hard work so poorly appretiated), but if there are any keep up the good work.

    Bye and have fun.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 2)
    by ironstorm on Tuesday, June 04 @ 05:50:02 BST
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    I read in a book on managment:

    spend 70%-80% of your time on 30% of folks who

    produce the most of your deliverables, the other

    way around is an excercise in wasting time for

    no results.

    Now call me a troll, but I agree with the

    sentiment that cycles should not be spent

    porting stuff on the obsecure arches that

    don't offer native support, that should be

    left to the upstream maintainers... And

    you know why? Because if those changes you

    made to port don't back upstream you'll have

    to do the porting excercise again when SID

    or Sarge or whatever it is comes out.

    If 90% of the people can be covered under 4

    arches cool... but holding up things so we

    can have bug fixes and security updates for each

    of the other 7 architectures that have like .5% -

    1% of the user base is a bad idea.

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    New version between stable and testing? (Score: 1, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 04 @ 06:15:08 BST

    One more crazy idea for future:

    - Keep unstable & testing like now

    - Put additional version (just like testing) which is done automatically. Package which has been 2 weeks in testing and has no release-critical bugs, and has all it's dependencies met, will enter this version. And case of coming new release-critical bug, if it's not fixed in 1 month, package will be dropped out.

    This might encourage developers to get release-critical bugs fixed, and making release would be more 'take snapshot' type event.

    --Tavasti, too lazy to log in

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 2, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 04 @ 06:53:54 BST

    I'm not a deb user (yet) or even a linux user (yet), so this may very well seem like a dumb question. I mean, all this trolling and fussing about Woody. Why can't things just flow into stable? I mean, everyone just apt-get dist-upgrade's anyway, right? So, a package becomes stable, it lands in stable. Potato evolves, not freezes. Why wouldn't this work? I guess I'll figure it out when I actually start using the thing. I could start with potato, but wanted to wait for woody (yes, I know I can run testing, but I'm a newb, and don't want to mess with too much stuff going wrong, just want to experience linux...)

    Take care. Thanks to all the v'teers who woork hard on deb...

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 5, Funny)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 04 @ 07:18:47 BST

    There are probably more machines of some of these architectures floating in a pool of scum on the bank of a chinese river than there are actually in use. Heh.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 2, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 04 @ 18:19:15 BST

    If people want to port X to new architectures why don't they join the X development team. I don't see why it should be a linux distros responsibilty to port X to new architectures.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 3, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 04 @ 18:42:55 BST

    Woah nellie! Branden better get flaming! Looks like this Manoj dude is trying to take the crown of developer most likely to flame the shit out of the users.

    Has Branden gone soft? After his defeat running for DPL has he lost that edge that let him flame the shit out of newbies and long time users a like?

    Still it's good to see at least somebody still takes the time to remind the users how insignificant and useless they are.

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    Debian, please take note (Score: 5, Interesting)
    by grolschie on Tuesday, June 04 @ 23:43:44 BST
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    Regardless of what argument most accurately defends Debian's position and philosophy, or who is right or wrong even..... Debian has to sit up and take note.

    It seems that for whatever reason, there are many unhappy and angry Debian users. Debian users are taking exception to more than just one issue.

    Please Debian, take into consideration the general feeling of your users when formally revisiting these issues in your decision making.

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    Re: Woody release status (Score: 2, Funny)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, June 06 @ 06:43:19 BST

    I never thought I'd see Mozilla 1.0 before Debian 3.0...

    heck, for a while there I wondered if I'd ever see Mozilla 1.0 at all. 🙂

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