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    KDE 2.2 imminent
    Contributed by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 11:24:16 BST

    KDE
    KDE release 2.2 is either in incoming or sid (depending on when you read this).

    Drone0709: Its in Sid/Unstable now!

     
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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 1)
    by crazney on Friday, August 17 @ 11:31:13 BST
    (User Info)

    +++-====================-====================-========================================================

    ii kdebase 2.2.0-final-1 KDE core applications

    since a few days ago 🙂

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 11:56:36 BST

    there was a post a few days ago allready

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 23:21:19 BST

    After that update my kde does'nt start anymore, icewm to the rescue...

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, August 20 @ 16:47:47 BST

    What is exactly the line in sources.list to add the unstable section for kde 2.2 ?

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 2, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 15:41:19 BST

    Any word yet on whether KDE 2.2 will go into Woody before it's frozen? (Hint: 'yes' would be the strongly preferred answer 🙂

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 14:07:25 BST

    I would like to see kde 2.2 in woody too !!!!

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 17:47:33 BST

    IMMINENT please...

    mike2000

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 1, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 15:54:47 BST

    What about the backport to potato from http://kde.debian.net ?

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 00:08:31 BST

    Yes, I would like to know if that will happen.
    That would make me VERY happy. 😉

    -f.
    Federico Silva

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, August 20 @ 15:21:02 BST

    KDE 2.2 is _not_ going potato. There is to much backporting to do and second Wooody has almost completed the base-freeze. The final-release of Woody is just a couple of months away, but you can start using Woody because it is already pretty stable. If they don't need to upload new packages to Sid (we have already hit final-3 last night) then we can expect KDE 2.2 in Woody within 2 week. KOffice 1.1 has being release yesterdag and hopefully that one is also going to make Woody.

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: -1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 16:08:23 BST

    I really don't understand Debian mainteners' philosphy. KDE 2.2 *FINAL* (not beta 2.2.00xxy154.cowboyneal.rc01-pre15) is out, so it *should* be considered stable.

    However, it's not in the 'stable' branch, aka Potato.

    Why do we have to look into an unstable branch to download every new release ?

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 16:21:16 BST

    Two reasons:

    1. Another group of developers' definition of 'stable' might not match that of the package maintainers.

    2. Bugs concerning a package's interactions with other packages in the same release could cause the package to be considered unstable.

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 17:44:16 BST

    If you keep changing potato, then it's certainly not very stable now is it?

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 18:06:37 BST

    Like all the others have said already (just a little different):

    The Debian distribution has 4 possible branches (in decreasing order of stability):

    * stable, the latest release of the OS where all packages behave relatively well.

    * frozen, the next release, where no new versions of upstream software is let in, just bugfixes to the packages.

    * testing, relatively stable packages, no dependancies missing.

    * unstable, complete anarchy (with respect to the packaging that is).

    These branches have nothing in particular to do with the stability of the software, just the behavior of the post-/pre-install scripts etc. ie. the stability of the packages.

    Am I right, or have I misunderstood something? Your input is welcome...

    - Óli

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 1)
    by carlos (claviola at debian dot org) on Tuesday, August 21 @ 03:50:34 BST
    (User Info) http://laviola.org

    Am I right, or have I misunderstood something? (...)

    You're right, but you missed experimental, who isn't a distribution all in itself, but more like a set of packages that (the maintainer thinks) are so unstable that couldn't even go to sid, because they really would break stuff.

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 2, Funny)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 18:30:55 BST

    peeple hoo spel "imminent" az "imminant" depurately nede too git thimselfs spelchekir

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 07:49:28 BST

    Rob's bad spelling is just one of the signs of the failing UK education system = P

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 2, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Friday, August 17 @ 20:02:45 BST

    I understand from a message I found in the debian-kde archives that 2.2 will definitely go into Woody, since the freeze there is not a hard freeze, but a kinda-friendly flexible 3-phase freeze. That's good news.

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: 1)
    by phill on Friday, August 17 @ 23:47:37 BST
    (User Info)

    KDE can be downloaded in its entirity by apt-geting "kde" (okay plus kdebase-crypto and kdelibs3-crypto). AFAIK there is no such dummy package for Gnome 1.4, let alone 1.4.1 (beta). For 1.4.1 Bug-buddy release is too early (2.0.1 instead of 2.0.6) and there is no Panelmm - but is anybody interested in releasing such a package, even unofficially. If someone can point me to good docs I'd be interested (everything I've found so far says if you don't know how to do you probably shouldn't do it).

    Comments/Ideas very welcome...

    Phill

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminant (Score: -1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 03:24:14 BST

    apt-get install task-gnome-desktop

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    Still needing docs... (Score: 1)
    by phill on Saturday, August 18 @ 10:52:26 BST
    (User Info)

    This package only exists in Potato. There is no such package in Woody or Sid (quite strange, don't you think?). Also Ximian haven't updated to 1.4.1 (probably because it's still in beta) but even then there are problems with installing Ximian on Woody (using either the Potato or Woody releases).

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    Re: Still needing docs... (Score: 1)
    by nino on Sunday, August 19 @ 03:19:07 BST
    (User Info)

    This might be related to bug 97755, [PENDING AMENDMENT 17/05/2001] eliminating task packages; new task system.

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    KDE 2.2 and GDM (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 02:07:02 BST

    One thing about KDE 2.2 that pis*ed me off is that it requires removal of GDM (replaces with KDM --- yeah, whoopie, but I don't care for anything to be shoved down my throat). So, if you want KDE + GDM, you can then reinstall GDM.

    GDM, though, will ask for removal of KDM (ok, maybe GNOME isn't a saint either? KDM and GDM should exist peacefully) and KDE.

    It is my understanding KDEBase and any other apps are not removed --- just the KDE empty package. So with GDM installation: Tah Dah, KDE2.2 with GDM (and GNOME, of course).

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    Re: KDE 2.2 and GDM (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 02:17:50 BST

    ???

    I've got Gnome 1.4 and KDE 2.2 living peacefully together on my machine. I tested and switched between xdm, gdm and kdm just yesterday.

    Since they will conflict at runtime, you can't have them installed at the same time, but then you just install the one you want (which happen to be gdm for me)

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    Re: KDE 2.2 and GDM (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26 @ 06:45:02 BST

    a) KDE 2.2 does not require removal of GDM. GDM has a conflict for KDM...not the other way around

    so don't get pissed at the KDE 2.2 packages..get pissed at the GDM package

    b) All *DM packages can and will play nicely together for woody.

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    KDE 2.2 Fonts on Control Center? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 03:24:47 BST

    What are some preferences for the fonts and sizes on General, Fixed Width, Toolbar, etc...

    KDE2.2 set all my fonts to Abadi MT Condensed Light 10 default for all settings.

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    Re: KDE 2.2 Fonts on Control Center? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 06:51:35 BST

    If you have anti-aliased font, Arial do a good job, execpt for konsole. Any idea of what font should be more readable in konsole ?

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    Re: KDE 2.2 Fonts on Control Center? (Score: 2, Informative)
    by crazney on Saturday, August 18 @ 07:15:05 BST
    (User Info)

    theres a fix in /etc/X11/XftConfig

    i think u should have these lines (amongst others:)

    match any family == "fixed" edit family =+ "mono";

    match any family == "serif" edit family += "LuciduxSerif";

    match any family == "sans" edit family += "LuciduxSans";

    match any family == "mono" edit family += "LuciduxMono";

    #mine:

    match any family == "console" edit family =+ "mono";

    match any family == "mono" edit spacing = "mono";

    match any family == "charter" edit family += "bitstream charter";

    match any family == "bitstream charter" edit family =+ "charter";

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    Re: KDE 2.2 Fonts on Control Center? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 14:28:31 BST

    Great, my konsole looks very good now !

    Thank you !

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    Re: KDE 2.2 Fonts on Control Center? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, August 20 @ 15:16:25 BST

    you made my day !

    thanks

    kervel

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    Suggestions for Mozilla in KDE? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, August 20 @ 02:26:47 BST

    Speaking of fonts, any suggestions on font setting for mozilla? Using KDE2.2 with antialiasing and truetype fonts... mozilla does not look as nice as konq. But, prefer mozilla.

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminent (Score: 0, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 @ 23:05:12 BST

    i can't even believe this is being posted on debianplanet! debian users are supposed to be the smart ones who know unix. kde is a pretty gui piece of crap that no unix user would ever use. get rid of this bloatware and use wm2, like a real man.

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminent (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, August 19 @ 03:05:16 BST

    This kind of message is very arrogant and not constructive, *I'm* a Linux user (I use Linux since 1995) and I think that there is a place for evolution in the world of Unix. I like Gnome and KDE as well as Window Maker and Afterstep.

    If you don't like KDE, just don't install it !

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    here's the solution: (Score: -1, Troll)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, August 19 @ 05:10:19 BST

    redhat, mandrake, etc... need to distribute all their future releases to use wm2 as the desktop environment. they should also stop giving customer support, and replace the dumbass instruction books with pieces of paper that say "RTFM". linus should disable future kernel releases from using window managers other than wm2. maybe then linux will have a chance of being 1337 again.

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    Re: here's the solution: (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, August 19 @ 06:57:56 BST

    linux will die and be a joke again if it goes back to "1337" now shut up kiddie

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    Hey, What'za Problem Here? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, August 20 @ 17:49:45 BST

    A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man. A real man would post with a user name. You're not a real man. You're nothing but a chump. Yeah, a chump. A chump who has nothing better to do than type like a sissy and browse like a squirrel. You're a child. You see, I have a sentimental weakness for children and I spoil them. They talk when they should be listening.

    We're the smart ones alright. We're smart enough to see a chump like you a ping away. You can act like a man! [slap] What's the matter with you?

    Never tell anybody outside the debian family what you're thinking again and if you ever need any guidance, who's a better consiglieri than debian planet?

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    Re: KDE 2.2 imminent (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 21 @ 14:26:12 BST

    Applying your rationale to the automotive industry, a real driver would only own a 1972 Chevy Nova.

    Granted the Nova was a fine car in it's day, but engineering has advanced somewhat in the last 30 years. Why should we continue to live in the past when there are more feature-rich choices available today?

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