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    Pentium optimized potato
    Contributed by Anonymous on Saturday, September 15 @ 17:43:04 BST

    Debian
    I've decided to make a Pentium optimized Debian distribution, and
    now here is the result. 80% of the packages are recompiled, you
    can view this statistic
    here
    . This can be used by putting an extra apt line to the
    /etc/apt/sources.list. If you are intrested please read the
    README!
    Any questions, comments, congrats can go to debian@lists.kando.hu.

    AGL: Since you are downloading binary packages all the normal warnings apply

     
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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 1)
    by tourettes on Saturday, September 15 @ 18:57:56 BST
    (User Info) http://www.linuxhelp.net

    Pentium optimized, but not web-optimized

    i got a dead-link...anyone else?

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 1)
    by d00d on Saturday, September 15 @ 21:30:48 BST
    (User Info) http://getyouriso.org/

    Congrats, these package optimizing projects are very important for users who want to obtain the best from their hardware.

    btw, anyone knows of an optimizing project for AMD? thanks

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 1)
    by mrinal (mrinal at mrinal.dhs.org) on Saturday, September 15 @ 22:47:22 BST
    (User Info) http://mrinal.dhs.org/

    Why don't you release the scripts you used to automate the process, so that more people can start doing the same thing for testing/unstable and possibly other architectures?

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, September 17 @ 10:13:06 BST

    Wouldn't it be better to automaticly split the different optimizations automaticly in the build-process, so that i for example could get duron...-packages instead of x86 just by using apt-get and the offichal mirrors? The main distro is allready split for the different architectures. Seems to me that splitting it further for different optimizations would be easy and cost nothing more, than just a little cheap space.

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 1)
    by sourceo on Saturday, September 15 @ 22:54:40 BST
    (User Info) http://www.aripollak.com

    But the question is - does it really make a difference? I'm building athlon-optimized mozilla 0.9.4 packages now, and I still don't know if there's really any speed increase.

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, September 15 @ 23:05:47 BST

    With GCC 3.0 there's definately a speed increase when optimizing for athlon.

    In your case, try optimizing XFree86, your desktop environment and some other core packages (glibc, etc).

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, September 17 @ 00:05:19 BST

    IIRC the only architecture where optimizations really make a difference is pentium, because basically the pentium sucks, and the optimizations actually make a LOT of difference. Optimizing for PII, PIII, K6, K7, etc probably won't do as much increase. But this is just what I read the last time an $ARCH optimized debian tree was discussed here 🙂

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 5, Insighful)
    by mrinal (mrinal at mrinal.dhs.org) on Saturday, September 15 @ 23:01:19 BST
    (User Info) http://mrinal.dhs.org/

    oops, posted my previous comment as a reply accidentally..here it is again:

    Why don't you release the scripts you used to automate the process, so that more people can start doing the same thing for testing/unstable and possibly other architectures?

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, September 16 @ 05:12:08 BST

    Good idea.

    Really good idea, ive got processing power here more than i could occupy my sleepless nights with, and i wouldnt mind running a 24/7 compiler for testing.

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, September 16 @ 19:50:18 BST

    I've heard that pentium-optimized code can actually run slower than 386 code on a PIII, Athlon.

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, September 17 @ 09:05:23 BST

    Just curious,

    Is there any significant advantage in optomising for PII, 686 or PIII?

    The first Pentium optomised distros like Mandrake came out a few years ago and things have moved on a bit since then. As Debian is already available in 386 code then perhaps the turbo version may be better if it was optomised for PII or above as many people have at least PIIs now.

    If there isn't really any advantage in further optimisation then shout, flame, let me know about it!

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 1)
    by Anonymous on Monday, September 17 @ 11:21:21 BST

    Would you mind sharing the system you use ? I'd like to try that for my athlon, but doesn't know how to compile packages for another arch.

    Thanks,

    --

    Hobbes

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, September 17 @ 18:23:25 BST

    Okay, here is the code. It is very alpha, but you can see and learn some things from it. I'm planning a distributed system for larger compiles (sid/woody), but it needs some real thinking and coding. Now we have our first mirror, so more deadlinks won't be a problem. The address: ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/debian-i586 . Browsing this directory you can find the scripts

    and the README.txt also. The scripts will be mirrored only at sept 18 06:00+0200.


    RISKO Gergely

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 18 @ 05:01:05 BST

    Why not re-work the apt daemon that it will configure itself according to your CPU architecture then automatically download the sources and compile them with optimizations?

    This way we could keep the standard i386 base and let the speed freaks have urge overkill.

    Is it not better to re-write the packaging daemon instead of re-building all packages against several different architectures?

    Stef

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 18 @ 06:22:30 BST

    That is the best idea I've read in this whole thread. It makes sense too because if someone is going to do this they'll have a speedy computer... I'd definately want to choose selectively which packages to compile though and which to just get the i386/whatever binaries.

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    Re: Pentium optimized potato (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 18 @ 09:32:50 BST

    Hehh! It's not need reworking. Now you can

    install pentium-builder, export a DEBIAN_ARCH

    for your needs (read /usr/share/doc/pentium-builder)

    and after that do apt-get -b source <package>.

    Ohh, and if not all devel things installed an

    apt-get build-dep <package> also needed before the

    -b source.


    RISKO Gergely

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