Debian Planet











Welcome to Debian Planet

Search

Apt-get into it.
Main Menu

  • Home

  • Topics

  • Web Links

  • Your Account

  • Submit News

  • Stats

  • Top 10

  • Debian

    These are important Debian sites one should not be without!

  • Official Debian site

  • Package search

  • Mailing list archives

  • Bug reports

  • Debian on CD

  • Unofficial woody CD ISOs

  • Unofficial APT sources

  • Developers' Corner

    Other great Debian news sources:

  • Debian Weekly News

  • Kernel Cousin Debian

    (Debian mailing lists digested)
  • Community Groups

    Need help? You're not alone on this planet.

  • debianHELP

    (User support site)

  • Debian International

  • DebianWorld

    (Français)

  • DebianForum.de

    (Deutsch)

  • EsDebian

    (Español)

  • Debian-BR

    (Português)

  • DebianUsers

    (Korean)

  • IRC

    The place to get help on a Debian problem (after reading docs) or to just chat and chill is #debian on irc.debian.org.

    Many of the Debian Planet staff live there so pop by and say hello.

    Wanna write?

    Got that latest or greatest scoop? Perhaps you have some important news for the Debian community? Submit a news item!

    Or perhaps you've written a rather ground breaking insight into some aspect of Debian and you feel compelled to share it with others? Knock up a longer editorial article and send it to our team.

    Sponsorship

    DP is sponsored by uklinux.net and CheepLinux.

    Debian Planet runs on hardware donated by Xinit systems and is using kieser.net's bandwidth.

    Who's Online

    There are currently, 77 guest(s) and 1 member(s) that are online.

    You are Anonymous user. You can register for free by clicking here.

      
    Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer?
    Posted on Monday, November 19 @ 18:17:39 GMT

    Debian
    RIchard Stallman of GNU fame, has entered the the NM process for Debian, you can track his progress here. I'm sure he will be warmly welcomed into the Debian community.

     
    Related Links

  • Debian Homepage
  • SPI Inc.
  • More about Debian
  • News by rob

    Most read story about Debian:
    Xpdf and PDF copy-control

    Last news about Debian:

    Printer Friendly Page  Send this Story to a Friend
  • "Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer?" | Login/Create Account | 31 comments
    Threshold


    The comments are owned by the poster. We aren't responsible for their content.

    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, November 19 @ 18:50:53 GMT

    Welcome 🙂

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, November 19 @ 21:26:11 GMT

    it's easier to get a job than to become a debian developer, nice bureaucracy thing going on there

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 00:17:17 GMT

    That's not a fair comparison.

    On a job, they normally want to meet you too. It's easier because they normally live closer to you...

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 03:04:42 GMT

    when you apply for a job you know where you stand.

    none of this permanent 'on hold' stuff

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 05:49:55 GMT

    Debian developers have to work on their free time and will not be paid. It's surelly harder than your average day jobs.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 21 @ 02:08:25 GMT

    I don't see how making some packages in the evening is supposed to be harder than a day job.

    But ya it's harder than hell to get the "priveledge" of putting together said packages.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 21 @ 07:56:50 GMT

    Stupid, you don't get paid and you have to work extra hours. I am sure people like you won't be

    able to keep working on this kind of projects.

    You don't see because you are stupid. Why you

    have to spell it out?

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 01:05:51 GMT

    You just need no life that's all.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 1)
    by MLKahnt on Friday, November 23 @ 00:47:48 GMT
    (User Info) http://hosehead.dyndns.org

    Okay - what is involved?

    Building the application on Debian, noting all of the steps and coding them correctly, not only for i386 but the whole range of platforms supported by Debian, ensuring that the dependencies are met. From what I read in the changelogs, there are often migration considerations, cleaning up older files when the application is being updated, and that is all assuming that the application builds fine on all platforms.

    If it doesn't build correctly somewhere (or various places), fixes usually get coded (hey, this is the Free Software way!), and then are submitted to the original developer. This usually means knowing much of the application as well as the developer does, plus the current state of Debian interfaces, libraries, etc. that the package will hit up against.

    Not a trivial task.

    [ Reply ]


    NM processing time (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, November 22 @ 02:46:28 GMT

    Most applicants get processed in a week or three. Have a look at the website and read the numbers.

    Applicants who get processed fast have actually bothered to read the freely available documentation and thought about their application. They also have made sure they haven't made an ass of themselves. Job applicants who are ill-prepared or make an ass of themselves are processed real quick, usually out the door.

    Sure RL can get in the way and make responses slow or your application manager may delay things. Remember though that the AMs are volunteers.

    Leaving aside the great minority of applicants who do have valid concerns, most people who knock the system have either not used it or are being delay due to something they did.

    This damn key recovery of debianplanet is broken, but I'll not hide behind anonymous, my nick is seeS.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: NM processing time (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 00:32:06 GMT

    Most applicants get processed in a week or three.

    Umm.. then why have I been waiting three weeks since my application, even though I have read all the documentation and already have sponsored uploads?

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, November 19 @ 21:34:19 GMT

    Hail ohh great leader of GNU... Live long and grobo !

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer? (Score: 2, Funny)
    by Blue (i{S}e{P}u{A}r{M}e@debian.org) on Monday, November 19 @ 23:49:16 GMT
    (User Info)

    ha! i wonder how the "philosophy check" will go. 🙂

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 02:11:02 GMT

    I hope his AM grills him for fun! 🙂

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 16:39:45 GMT

    RMS will fail the philosophy check because he refuses to accept any license other then the GPL.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer? (Score: -1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous on Monday, November 19 @ 23:55:13 GMT

    Oh, good

    i've always wanted an extreamist onboard.

    I hope he trys to make debian less useful and more annoying, so we can all be more pure in the eyes of free software.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 21 @ 02:09:24 GMT

    Debian already does that without any help from richard, ok dippy.

    [ Reply ]


    Why have a virtual RMS when we can have the real one? (Score: 0, Troll)
    by Netsnipe (netsnipe at. debianplanet dot. org) on Tuesday, November 20 @ 00:42:26 GMT
    (User Info) http://www.debianplanet.org

    apt-get install vrms

    You'll see what I mean = ) Now how do we go about splitting the real RMS for distribution?
    Best of luck to you Richard.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 2, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 00:43:02 GMT

    What packages is he wanting to maintain? Or is this just for political purposes?

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 1, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 03:11:36 GMT

    I'm just guessing, but it might be for Debian GNU/Hurd and stuff related to that.

    If it IS politics, get non-free while you can 😉

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 1)
    by Johannes on Tuesday, November 20 @ 13:27:52 GMT
    (User Info)

    > I'm just guessing, but it might be for Debian

    > GNU/Hurd and stuff related to that.

    Probably not. He recently stated that "we don't give the Hurd a high priority". I don't know if he is involved in Hurd development at all. He never posted anything on debian-hurd.

    Johannes

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 03:38:28 GMT

    He probably wants DWN to stop mentioning free software 😉

    [ Reply ]


    DOH! (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 03:39:56 GMT

    non-free, that is

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 07:55:37 GMT

    Emacs? 🙂

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 2, Insighful)
    by brother on Tuesday, November 20 @ 08:17:35 GMT
    (User Info) http://peter.makholm.net

    This is the interesting question: Why?

    If it is to make a technical contribution to the project (contribute to GNU/Hurd for example), I will welcome him as warm as any other competent developer.

    If it is to make political statements I would rather be free. Debian should primary be a place for technical work. Let us keep the politically/ideologically work in SPI or FSF.

    What you could fear is that it is a desperate attempt to stay in control of some part of the free software movement. To me it looks like he has gotten bad blows from trying to control glibc-development af Gnome-activities. I don't know if this is fair, thats my reading of the newsstream.

    I sincerly hope this is not true. While I probally disagree with RMS in many areas I acknowledge his great work for the free software movement. It would be sad to see him failing in keeping control and let it color what the future will see in him.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 16:25:13 GMT

    What do you mean RMS was trying to control glibc-development? The problem was the maintainer Ulrich Depper acting like an asshole and removing compatability patches just to suit his particular agenda. RMS wanted to create a glibc steering commitee like gcc has to prevent this kind of thing and the Depper idiot went through the roof on that one.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 03:29:58 GMT

    Will he write a lisp compiler for Linux? I want a python compiler, actually.

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs develope (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 07:24:56 GMT

    Try psyco, http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~arigo/psyco/

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 14:32:34 GMT

    I note that "ID Check" hasn't passed yet. Could it just be some prankster?

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 20 @ 14:37:31 GMT

    dumbass. He hasn't even got an applicant manager, how the hell could this application manager verify his identity.

    I guess Jeff Bailey wouldn't advocate a prankster anyway...

    Michael Banck

    [ Reply ]


    Re: Richard Stallman, Free Software activist, Emacs developer ... Debian Developer? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 21 @ 16:22:08 GMT

    Isn't he working on the Gnome packages?

    [ Reply ]


    Based on: PHP-Nuke

    All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2000 by Debian Planet

    You can syndicate our news using the file backend.php.