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    Promoting Debian to management
    Contributed by cef on Friday, November 23 @ 18:03:00 GMT

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    All us Debian users KNOW that Debian is better, but when you get asked by management for a document that lists all this (that management can understand), where do you get the information to back up your statements, and what are the reasons you can give? Also it'd be nice to see WHY some readers of Debian Planet think Debian is better than "other distributions".

    DanielS: The main answers from the comments are stability and policy.

     
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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 18:25:04 GMT

    Why? because, first your management won't understand it!, the phylosophy of the Distro is completely different: today the only thing that rules is the Businness. RH does it! Debian no, because the only support Debian developers can officially give to user is "homely" (it is NOT to be intended in the negative way of the term). The wide support is the one that makes the difference on the market. That's it!

    ...but, even if more can not agree with my statement, I will endure the opinion that Debian is better because its aim is not the businness, but the way and the strenght many volunteers pursuit to reach the "perfection" of their jobs!!! thanks to all the developers, I luv u all, guys!!! I have been a debian user from the depth of my heart, I wil support you all.

    Ste from Italy

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 19:22:40 GMT

    I know debian is better (slackware is good too), but if Linux should have a future, I don't believe that Debians policy is the way to go. Ofcource Debian could still exist and still make very good distributions, but i think SuSE is the future hope of the linux' competition vs microsoft because SuSE are commersial and I believe they have a better marketing strategy....

    But I still think debian is a great distribution

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 19:55:22 GMT

    Linux isn't about being vs. anything. Linux is about being the best OS that the developers want it to be. Linus in almost every interview says that he doesn't think about microsoft or windows much and just focuses on making Linux the best it can be.

    And the only competition you'll see is from the capitalists. And not everything is about marketing. There *is* life beyond the dollar. And believe me its nice.

    simon@willhaven.org

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 1)
    by che on Saturday, November 24 @ 00:12:54 GMT
    (User Info)

    Debian is *not* about being anti-Miscrosoft, although most of us aren't sympathetic to the crappy OS monopolist. This is irrelevant nevertheless. Debian is *not* a windows killer and it will never be. Debian is a OS by the people and for the people that follows it's strict ethics and is not driven by money.

    Debian is a superior OS for it's own merits. Remember before most of us got here we were using Windows, Mandrake, Redhat or Suse.

    I didn't install Debian because of the lovely grafical maintainer nor for lovely automatic hardware detection (*grin*).

    I learnt to love Debian using the stable release on servers. No fuzz, just the basics. At that time I was runing Redhat and Mandrake. Guess what partions got assimilated? :c)

    C.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 02:40:43 GMT

    <pedant>

    Debian is the distribution, not the OS.

    GNU/Linux is the OS.

    HTH.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 1)
    by ilmari (ilmari -at- ziggen -dot- com) on Sunday, November 25 @ 02:34:25 GMT
    (User Info)

    Actually, Debian is the project.
    Debian GNU/Linux and Debian GNU/Hurd are its distributions of the GNU (plus lots of other software) OS on top of the Linux and Hurd kernels, respectively.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 30 @ 12:05:13 GMT

    >No fuzz, just the basics.

    Thanks man, you said it best 🙂

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    Disciplined package maintainers (Score: 1, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 18:30:09 GMT

    Because the people maintaining packages generally use them as well, Debian packages tend to be of a very high standard.

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    Policy and Maintainability (Score: 4, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 18:46:34 GMT

    Debian has a policy and all packages are made to fit that policy. The policy alows for official packages (apt + dpkg) and local packages (/usr/local/ + stow). The system is designed by many people who each have vested interests in their packages working well. This means that debian packages have sane defaults and often let you change the defaults as it is installed and will tend not to ask the same question again.

    Also Debian is a world wide distribution and so is not US-centric which is nice.

    Keeping on top of security updates is very quick easy and simple... This must be the selling point to management.

    You are not tied to one vendor for support. There are many people and companies who will support Debian.

    My humble opinion is that other distribs MAY be easier to set up (they DO have more eye-candy on that we can agree!) but Debian is easier to maintain. Which in the long run is a BIG plus.

    Other distribs make it easy for idiots to config a machine... but then you get an idiotic config.

    Debian makes it easy for someone who can read, understand and think to configure a machine which results in a well configured and easily maintainable machine. This means that when a new version of debian is released that most of the config is maintained in the upgrade. Once a Debian machine is installed you may _never_ need to boot from floppy again, even when upgrading to a new release! Again Debian proves to be more maintainable than other distribs.

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    Re: Policy and Maintainability (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 23:13:13 GMT

    >You are not tied to one vendor for support. There are many people and companies who will support Debian.

    Such as who?

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    Re: Policy and Maintainability (Score: 1)
    by coba on Monday, November 26 @ 09:07:26 GMT
    (User Info)

    Progeny,

    and if I`m not mistaken IBM

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 5, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 19:19:19 GMT

    The company I am working for has serious problems keeping track with the Linux distribution race. For release managers Debain has these advantages over other Linux distros:

    - a long release cycle. Debian 2.2 (aka "Potato") is 18 months old. It is still possible to install it on a modern PC (even though your graphics card might not be supported). This is close to the OS release cycle of other Unix vendors (Sun, HP, IBM, etc).

    - the Debian "Testing" and "Unstable" distros provide an up-to-date test arena for your software. You can support the most modern Linux distros at your FCS. Your customers will love this.

    - Debian uses an excelent bug tracking system, which can be accessed by everybody. This is important for documenting the progress in your own development department.

    Surely there are more advantages.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0, Troll)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 18:26:50 GMT

    > Debian uses an excelent bug tracking system, which can be accessed by everybody

    especially spammers

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    Debian is better? Not really. (Score: 0, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 19:19:31 GMT

    Hrm. The only big reasons I prefer Debian are apt-get and the package policy (high quality packages and consistant naming).

    Otherwise, Debian sucks a lot compared to the commercial distros. It's hard to install, its default configurations (think GNOME setup) are horrid from a user point of view, hardware detection is crap, config/management tools are just a hodge-podge of unintegrated seperate projects, etc.

    At home, where it's just me, I can easily deal with the above problems and enjoy the benefits of Debian. On servers, it's usually me or another experienced admin, where Debian excels compared to other distros. On workstations/laptops at work, or for friends/family, Debian is the last distro I would recommend. It's a nightmare for any Linux user but the experienced.

    I think one problem of Debian's maintainer setup is that there is little coordination and effort between maintainers to come up with a cohesive distro. Debian is, and likely will remain, just a collection of software. If, say, the installer people and the hardware package people and the X people and the kernel people worked together, we could end up with a central, integrated hardware detection/installation/configuration center. If the maintainers of all the GNOME related libraries and software worked together, there would probably be much nicer GNOME configurations and consistant setups. There needs to be "large" Debian projects that encompass more than just a single maintainer.

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    Sounds like a good idea... (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 20:00:50 GMT

    It sure sounds like a good idea... I would encourage you to post that to some of the debian mailing lists. Or maybe you could work on setting up such a thing yourself...

    simon@willhaven.org

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    Re: Debian is better? Not really. (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 15:13:38 GMT

    Wow, I love this boards. I get both -1 and Insightful. Someone doesn't like my opinion, and mods it down so other people who want to share intelligent opinions won't even see it unless they're looking for it.

    I wonder, truly, what problems people have with my assertions, if they have valid counterarguments, and if not, what their proposals would be.

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    Re: Debian is better? Not really. (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 04:56:23 GMT

    Possibly even a central list compiled from a cat /proc/pci for all? users installing debian with the correct install iunformation for those devices would be a great start

    meridian@tha.net

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    Re: Debian is better? Not really. (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 23:41:38 GMT

    A lot of what you describe can and should be addressed in policy. That's what makes our packages work so well. Please consider joining the policy lists and talk about this!

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 4, Informative)
    by d00d on Friday, November 23 @ 21:41:26 GMT
    (User Info) http://getyouriso.dyndns.org/


    Take a look at:

    http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 3, Funny)
    by tarzeau (tarzeau@space.ch) on Friday, November 23 @ 23:25:40 GMT
    (User Info) http://www.linuks.mine.nu

    because it has super cow powers?

    (apt-get moo, hint hint!)

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 04 @ 21:11:57 GMT

    > (apt-get moo, hint hint!)

    I just checked, no such package.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 06 @ 19:09:16 GMT

    it's apt-get moo

    not apt-get install moo

    and you need woody or sid

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 2, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 23 @ 23:45:12 GMT

    make-kpkg (this absolutely rocks imho, see nvdriver, alsa-modules, etc: veeery slick.)

    apt-get

    alternatives system

    update-(inetd|rc.d|...) (yes I know its for use by packages but that doesnt make it any less handy)

    debconf

    debian-policy

    lack of shovelware

    the fact that none of these need any single front end meaning remote administration feels much more natural

    deb http://security.debian.org

    apt-get upgrade (thanks to lack of afformentioned frontends)

    in short, lots of little things and the ethos of Debian's development.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 00:37:28 GMT

    Not to despise debian (I'm testing it to see if/when I can switch from Mandrake and I'm starting to like it) but..

    > make-kpkg (this absolutely rocks imho, see nvdriver, alsa-modules, etc: veeery slick.)

    still there are no stock kernels with support for xfs, jfs, alsa (yes, you can get alsa, but you have to compile it yourself, not so difficult with make-kpgk but still more difficult than having it in the standard package). Mandrake stock kernel supports all this and more. For nvdriver just download the source rpm and do an rpm --rebuild and that's all.

    >apt-get

    urpmi in Mandrake. And you can even use apt-get

    >alternatives system

    also in Mandrake (I know they copied it from debian, maybe one day debian can copy something good from them ,since all their software is GPLed).

    >update-(inetd|rc.d|...)

    I prefer chkconfig

    >debconf

    probably a good idea, yes you got me there (provided it doesn't overwrite or trash modifications I manually make to the configuration files).

    >debian-policy

    good

    >lack of shovelware

    what do you mean by shovelware, and where is it in other distributions?

    >deb http://security.debian.org

    Mandrake's security updates have always been timely

    >apt-get upgrade

    urpmi --update --auto-select in Mandrake (or apt-get upgrade).

    What's missing though is a reliable equivalent of apt-get dist-upgrade.

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    Mandrake stable? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 15:35:11 GMT

    Mandrake´s (as well as other RedHat´s children) conecpt of "stability" is a lot diferent of debian´s one.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 18:40:26 GMT

    Shovelware is the opposite of debian-policy: throwing in as much software as possible into packages without much regard for how it all fits together into a useful system.

    And I've yet to see you field my comment about the lack of frontends (ie the fact that its all commandline); for some reason you left that out. That was my biggest problem with mdk when I tried it.

    And, as for stock kernels, fine, stock kernels are good but what if you want to make your own ones? make-kpkg's your best friend there. Ideally though, what Deb ought to do is to make a stock kernel that's as modular as possible, just including cramfs or something for an initrd. That should be paired with an enhanced modconf which (a) integrates with modutils and devfsd making it automatically probe the drivers as needed (autoprobing everything at start can be a bit of a waste of time) and (b) automatically updates your initrd. Add a database of lspci outputs to module names and you'd have one bitchin kernel management system. Maybe I ought to write something like this for whatever's gonna come after Woody =)

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 13:01:20 GMT

    And I've yet to see you field my comment about the lack of frontends (ie the fact that its all commandline); for some reason you left that out. That was my biggest problem with mdk when I tried it.

    Well, I'm still not too confortable with debian, since I've been using it for too much little time while I've been using mandrake since 7.0, so these are my first impressions and could be wrong. I don't know debian frontends and I almost never use mandrake frontends: they're good to get evrything working initially but afterwards I prefer to edit configuration files by myself.

    And, as for stock kernels, fine, stock kernels are good but what if you want to make your own ones?

    I never needed to make my own kernels under mandrake: (almost) everything is supported right out of the box (yes, I had to compile some modules for exotic hardware, but I could do it without touching the running kernel). With debian I really had to roll my own and still I couldn't get it totally right.

    Anyway, I think there are other reasons to prefer debian: the development model (though mandrake's one isn't too bad) and the social contract, and not technical merits alone.

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    Kernels (was Re: Debian is better - Why?) (Score: 1)
    by che on Sunday, November 25 @ 16:19:16 GMT
    (User Info)

    I've used Mandrake a lot too (from 7.2 till 8.1) before I switched to Debian (Testing) on the desktop.

    Of course everything works out of the box with a Mandrake kernel. Why? Because they stuff it with too many options on for things you won't use and consuming memory.

    A standard Debian kernel isn't as big as the Mandrake one, but most normal stuff work. If it doens't is very easy to roll your own with the standard Debian tools.

    C.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 3, Funny)
    by che on Saturday, November 24 @ 00:22:04 GMT
    (User Info)

    Where I work we have some commercial unixes and some linux boxes.

    I installed some servers using Debian (routers, firewall, proxyserver, mailserver) and they were stable like the stable label of Potato says. 0 crashes.

    Although my bosses were impressed by Debian, they asked me to only install RedHat. This because some of our products are only Redhat certified and because my collegues would be able to maintain the machines too (ever heard of apt-get?).

    We made a deal: Debian for external servers (security!) and RedHat for internal ones. I even installed some Redhat boxes. Guess what, next week I'm formating the last RedHat box and putting Debian on it. My bosses? They have learnt when to shut up :c).

    C.

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 1)
    by gowlin on Saturday, November 24 @ 18:21:19 GMT
    (User Info)

    >Although my bosses were impressed by Debian, they asked me to only >install RedHat. This because some of our products are only Redhat >certified and because my collegues would be able to maintain the >machines too (ever heard of apt-get?).

    The problem with this is that it doesn't really matter that much what distribution the product is on, the only real dependancies are in the GNU C Library and the kernel. Products should be distributed with requirements on versions of these two pieces of software (although I know that's not how it works, unfortunately).

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    Re: Debian is better - Why? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, November 26 @ 19:49:23 GMT

    I completely agree. I think this is one of the major issues hindering corporate acceptance. And thus, management acceptance. It needs to be made very publicly known that Linux is not RedHat, and that the certifications on specific distributions are complete rubbish.

    There are some vendors releasing software which is dependant only on glibc and kernel versions, but they are few and far between. I have been fighting with a few companies recently because they refused to support us based on our use of Debian. I ended up installing the package on RedHat just to meet their requirements for support and then applied their fixes to the server running Debian.

    The proper body, presumably the FSF, or the LSB, or the FHS, or perhaps all of them and more need to make it more publicly known that the distribution is not a key issue. If software is made correctly (ie, not depending on idiotic additions made by one distro and not another.) then it will run anywhere(tm).

    Hopefully the LSB will get more widespread acceptance and solve this issue for us somewhat.

    - shadoi

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 5, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 07:52:39 GMT

    1. Predictability - Debian lives without profit every single day of its existence. How long do you think Red Hat, SuSE and Caldera can exist without a profit? One day, if the money stops rolling in, those companies will fold, while Debian will still keep on chugging.

    2. Stability - The end goal of Debian is great software available freely - and nothing else. No other distribution or OS can say the same thing because there is at least one other goal in mind (profit). Bugs and security breaches will eventually slip into the final product when quality and profitability become intertwined.

    3. Accessibility - No profit motive means no real incentive to limit access to the software in any fashion. Caldera customers had the whole seat licencing thing dropped in their lap without notice. How would you like to have been the head of IT who recently made the switch to OpenDesktop with 'freedom' as at least one aspect of your pitch ... only to find that this freedom was to be taken away at some future date because Caldera wasn't making enough dough. Money, or more properly, the lack thereof, makes people do the strangest things.

    4. Respectability - there is a reason companies choose to use Debian in their own distribution schemes.

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 08:25:47 GMT

    I definitively agree with you, I think your is the best comment I have ever read on this subject. Good to think in the same way.

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 13:47:24 GMT

    If there is a security hole found in bind, then it is gonna be a hole in every distro, and every unix for that matter. It's not like redhat doens't use the same exact software as debian. If there is a root sploit found in sendmail then debian is just as vulnerable as redhat which is just as vulnerable as solaris which is just as vulnerable as freebsd.

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 12:35:09 GMT

    Except Debian doesnt use sendmail as its default MTA, and rightly so.

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 27 @ 20:16:00 GMT

    I am not talking about problems within applications, but the problems found in putting together the packages.

    Have you ever had to root out a problem with a Red Hat package because it didn't work right the first time? I have on over a dozen occasions. If this was my business PC, I would have been furious that a supposedly 'finished' product has some dependency problem or a broken symlink that caused me expensive downtime. If I am in a position of a cash flow crunch, even a few hours can mean the difference between surviving and bankruptcy.

    Every business owner I have dealth with as a consultant says the same thing: "just make it work." They don't care about fancy features or up to date software, they only want a system that they can depend on. With Debian, they can depend on the organization to still exist five years from now and on the software to be thoroughly tested. No other distribution can guarantee the same level of commitment because they have to make money. When the money stops, so does the company. Long before that happens, compromises will be made in the quality of the product in order to maximize profitability - and this effect will get worse as the company's financial woes increase.

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 08:21:53 GMT

    The comments I read are almost all correct (from my point of view), but I first keep the distance from who is still thinking Debian distro is to be compared as another OS competitor: I mean the Debian market is not exacly the same of the either Unix or Windows or Mac one. You miscredit Debian if you necessary consider it as competor: I think Debian is better because the aims are different (marketplace, businness,...), reaching the perfection is matter only on an elite, Debian got it, because the developers worked hard to make their application work, NOT only APPEAR to!!!

    Thanks DEb!!!

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 3, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, November 24 @ 16:35:45 GMT

    The reasons to prefer Debian fall under two general catagories:

    1. Political/Policy

    2. Technical merit


    Considering only the second catagory, as some one in management, I appreciate the fact that Debian provides three levels of refinement and stability and undergoes constant development.


    Couple this to apt/dselect and we are able to quickly and easily deploy the right Linux based solution for almost every need as these needs arise.


    The result is, although our company is not associated with the IT industry, we are about 90 percent powered by Linux. Although we also use Slackware extensively, our deployments over the past year have mostly been Debian.


    No other distribution has proven as flexible or as capable of meeting our needs.

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    two advantages (Score: 1, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 07:10:20 GMT

    Debian has a superior layout. The init scripts in Redhat/Mandrake are far more complicated with little benefit.

    Also, packages get installed in more sensible locations and that makes them easier to manage. Not to mention, the .deb system seems to work more smoothly than rpms.

    Trust me, I've been using Mandrake for a year and a half and Debian had some very welcome differences!

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    Re: two advantages (Score: 1, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Monday, November 26 @ 19:53:40 GMT

    Recent changes to adhere to the LSB/FHS will mean that neither of them will be different in this respect.

    Thank god for that.

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 3, Insighful)
    by MacMasta on Sunday, November 25 @ 08:40:50 GMT
    (User Info)

    Where I work, we are in the process of rolling out Microsoft's fancy new whiz-band Active Directory system. The most important part of that is automated software installs: we put each machine in a container, define what software that container gets, and reboot the machine: it uses InstallShield packages, and *poof* all is well.

    Seems to me that Debian already has that...apt, baby!

    Not to mention, because of kpackage and so on, it's quite possible for a well-organized corporate IT department to do complete system upgrades to the most recent packages (including recent kernels and corp-specific packages [both free and non-free]) without any pain at all. -> Just add apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to the startup scripts, and make sure to set the apt-source as a corporate-defined one that mostly mirrors, say, Woody.

    Cost for this system? Less than Active Directory? Functionality of this system? More than Active Directory.

    There: I've convinced myself that Debian is perfect for the corporate end-user, not just the corporate server. Cool!

    😛

    ~Mac~

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 1, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 @ 22:05:34 GMT

    One really main reason is that nobody owns it and everybody owns it. The next is of coarse stability. Then, great packages and incredible upgrading technique. Last, all the people that develop and maintain the Debian Gnu/Linux distribution, nothing small can be said about them. They are all very valuble to the global computing community. Kudos to the gang that keeps Debian alive and the distro the way it is and still keeps getting better. Kudos to the end users who understand the quality of the Debian distro and all their help in bugtrakking.

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    Many thanks (Score: 1)
    by cef on Monday, November 26 @ 05:31:35 GMT
    (User Info)

    Thank you all that replied. Much obligied.

    We've already done the conversion of our in-office systems (well mostly), and I've been a personal convert since about the time RH 6.x botched my Linux experiences. I've been sold on Deb for ages.

    I was simply asked to give a 1-2 page document on why we chose Debian over other distributions (actually to show to other companies - one of our products requires a "server" and while we prefer using Deb, we will support other distros/platforms - one company asked why we chose Deb... hence the document), and while writing it couldn't find too much in the way of resources, which is why I asked here, as I'm sure the readers of Debian Planet would come up with things I may not have thought of, and you did! *grin*

    Well, off to add to the document I've written so far. It's starting to look like 3 pages now.

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    Re: Many thanks (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Monday, November 26 @ 19:56:22 GMT

    Please have the maintainers of DebianPlanet post a copy (or a stripped version at least) as a new story. I'm sure everyone would like to read it, and/or use/modify it in their own workplaces.

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    Re: Promoting Debian to management (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, November 30 @ 16:19:43 GMT

    I use Debian because it works!!

    Actually I use the Stormix 2000 Distro, but I plan to switch to Debian once the stable version of Potato is released. I use it on my laptop and the system has never crashed, unlike windows. Some programs do crash, but that is actually quite rare, with the exception of some unfinished programs, like my old Abiword 0.7 release. Now I am not a computer programmer or system administrator, but a student of the classics(the study of the ancient Greeks and Romans). I am the type of guy that wants a system that functions and functions well, and if it is free, all the better. Thanks Debian creators for your great distribution and to my brother who helped me set up my system.

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