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    Mono Packages Now Available
    Contributed by tpsreport on Friday, May 03 @ 21:01:27 BST

    Ximian
    I just thought that I would point out that for those of you who are interested in the Mono project, daily Debian packages are now available. Check this link for more details.

    Robot101: Made by our very own Alp 😉

     
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  • "Mono Packages Now Available" | Login/Create Account | 16 comments
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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 03 @ 21:34:35 BST

    Very nice, very nice...

    Debian is very up-to-date, OpenOffice (uhmm .org) packages available just 1 day after the official 1.0 announcement, and now Mono...

    Now, when will Mono enter unstable? Are the packages of a releasable quality?

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 1)
    by Robot101 (robot11@debian.org) on Friday, May 03 @ 22:13:36 BST
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    These packages still need win32 to build. I can't see them entering unstable any time soon...

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 03 @ 22:52:14 BST

    That sucks.. I thought mono was already self-hosting?

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 1)
    by alp (foo@bar.baz) on Friday, May 03 @ 23:28:12 BST
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    The mcs C# compiler is capable of compiling itself on Linux. The class libraries still have to be compiled on Win32 using the Microsoft C# compiler. What exists now is self sustaining to the extent that, if you were to remove all Microsoft components this very day, the existing code-base could still be independently improved to the point of complete self-hosting.

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: -1, Troll)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 03 @ 21:57:00 BST

    I still don't know why Miguel won last years young innovator award from MIT. All he does it copy other peoples stuff (mostly microsoft at that). This year they say Alan Cox may win. Sure Alan is a great coder who has done so much for linux, but come on is maintaining a unix clone really that innovative? I mean out of all the tech fields out there they pick people making clones of existing software. If you ask me that's pretty ridiculous.

    Sorry just wanted to rant for a second.

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 1)
    by grolschie on Sunday, May 05 @ 23:28:43 BST
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    Just a question (not flamebait)...I am new to this topic....

    What is so wonderful about Microsoft, .NET, and C#? In principal aren't MS and Linux (and what they stand for) dire enemies?

    I run a dual boot system (Win98SE and Debian Woody). Last time I went to Windows Update (nowhere near as smart as Debian's apt/dpkg) it recommended I download a whopping 20MB+ patch to install support for the new .NET framework. "Not likely" I said exiting my browser.

    I have a strong dislike for languages like Visual Basic etc that allow distribution of tiny files, yet the end-user need a big stack of runtime files (and various versions of). Although this isn't too much different to Linux libraries, 20MB+ for .NET? No way!

    Back to my original question? Why do people want it for Linux? Just curious?

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, May 06 @ 01:22:18 BST

    I'd suggest you visit http://go-mono.com. They have lots of information regarding .NET there, and go into details regarding why it's good to have on Linux.

    In short, the advantage is that it's a complete Open architecture for application development. If offers all the features of Java (security model, JIT, etc.), but is more open, and (in some ways) much faster and more flexible.

    Some people say that Mono gives MS control of Linux. not even close. MS has *no* control over Mono. And, even is MS changes their standard and makes MS .NET incompatible with Mono .NET, Mono can still be used - we just lose the interoperability, which would be the exact same thing as if we didn't have Mono at all.

    In short, tho, the real reason behind Mono is: it can't hurt, and assuming MS plays nice for once, it'll make Linux desktops much more interoperable with MS C#/.NET applications and services.

    It should also be noted that Mono is only the .NET Framework. MS .NET is the Framework, plus a bunch of extra utilities and add-ons, plus a whole range of web services (thus your 20MB download). Mono is not any of those thing.

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 10 @ 11:41:22 BST

    Short sighted and overly trusting. Mono _can_

    hurt. Think patents. Think lawsuits. Think

    discriminatory licensing. Think about why Linux

    was able to leapfrog BSD. History repeating,

    and everyone seems too blind to see it.

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 10 @ 15:40:13 BST

    Please go troll slashdot. Even if ximian would be mired under a ton of lawsuits (which is highly unlikely) why would that affect linux?

    And, for your information, mono is implementing an ECMA standard. I like Sun a little bit more than MS, but at least MS did not withdraw the standardization of their language, as Sun did with java

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 1)
    by CaPS on Saturday, May 11 @ 15:42:03 BST
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    AFAIK something being an ECMA standard doesn't mean that 'something' can't be patented.

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, May 11 @ 15:48:32 BST

    Please, what had Sun done?
    Sun propose a tecnology called Java Platform (TM).
    The (TM) stands for trademark, you are free to develop the same tecnology, you maybe cannot have certification from Sun, but you have freedom.

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, May 12 @ 09:32:42 BST

    > it can't hurt, and assuming MS plays nice for once

    Charlie Brown. Lucy. Football.

    'nuff said.

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    FAQs' (Score: 1)
    by grolschie on Monday, May 06 @ 02:01:36 BST
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    Aha! Here is the info: http://go-mono.com/faq.html

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 10 @ 08:51:00 BST

    Good work Alp!

    Do the packages include the class libraries?

    Al

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    Yes (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 10 @ 09:53:34 BST

    Snapshots of the complete environment are provided. It should work "out of the box".

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    Re: Mono Packages Now Available (Score: 1)
    by xerxes on Sunday, May 12 @ 12:34:32 BST
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    They do, but most of the class libraries just aren't implemented (yet)...

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