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    Additional 'update' CD for potato?
    Contributed by eptalon on Wednesday, May 23 @ 18:40:26 BST

    I was recently made painfully aware that our 'stable system (=potato) features applications that are rather oldish, and that some people have worked hard to make newer applications available to those potato users that do not want to switch to another version (woody, sid, (progeny?)).

    Hence I thought - why not put together a CD-image containing all those newer applications in potato-friendly versions, for those that lack the resorces to compile them by themselves.

    It might help debian stay competeitive while not scaring away those content with the way it currently works?

    rob: But aren't you basically creating a woody/sid cd here. Many new programs depend on new libraries. Where do draw the line? Everything for Potato's libc? The backporting only works for individual packages. And remember that stable should be stable and bringing in these packages would lead to many instabilities.

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  • "Additional 'update' CD for potato?" | Login/Create Account | 16 comments

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    Re: Additional 'update' CD for potato? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 23 @ 20:07:04 BST


    Sometime I think it would be a good idea to separate Debian in three/four parts with separate release schedules. Say : Debian-base, Debian-desktop, Debian-server and Debian-developers (or something like this)
    Different release schedules would allow for apps to upgrade more often, with debian-base driving the full release.

    But then, I am aware of the difficulties of that. Maybe now, with Testing under gradual freezing, we well have something similar.

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    Re: Additional 'update' CD for potato? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, May 24 @ 02:48:02 BST

    Debian is stable and must stay stable. If you want a cuting edge system, you should use Mandrake !

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    Re: Additional 'update' CD for potato? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, May 24 @ 18:34:28 BST

    Where I can find your CD Image for download or to buy.



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    Re: Additional 'update' CD for potato? (Score: 1, Interesting)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, May 24 @ 19:14:12 BST

    If you don't mind springing 25.00, Libranet

    probably has done the best job of integrating

    the latest features (Kernel 2.4.3, Xfree86 4.0.2

    ReiserFS,KDE 2.1.1.yet being just as stable as potato.

    Plus it comes on just _one_ CD.

    This is another plus to Libranet .

    They cherry pick Debian's 4500 available programs

    for the "latest and greatest".

    Once installed it can be used like a regular Debian version, ie apt-get your heart out.

    Finally, having installed and used it yourself

    you will be able to confim first hand that it is

    an excellent way to introduce the Newbie to Linux

    and Debian.

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    Re: Additional 'update' CD for potato? (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Friday, May 25 @ 18:14:22 BST

    Install Progeny ?????

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    Progeny and Ximian (Score: 1)
    by Anonymous on Saturday, May 26 @ 01:54:55 BST

    I think the greatest thing in Debian is that you can apt-get around and easily take things from different places. Personally, I have installed both packages from Ximian and from Progeny, plus the 2.4 kernel packages. Note that you can always use packages in potato if something you're looking for doesn't exist in progeny...

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    Debian towards being a meta-distribution ? (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, May 27 @ 19:37:06 BST

    It could be that the future of Debian will be to be a sort of 'standard base' and 'standard repository' on which many distributions would be made. I don't see this as bad, especially if it happens to de-fragment linux world.

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    PHP seems to be a good example (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Monday, May 28 @ 23:22:22 BST

    I think that the way php is handled in Potato makes sense. If you ask for php by default you'll get php version 3, but there are also a set of php4 packages which you can apt-get if you want something a little more recent.

    Granted, the reductio ad absurdam of this approach is n packages times m major version numbers, i.e. an explosion in the number of packages, but there are packages (postgresql for example) where it would be nice to be able to ask for a more recent major version, perhaps by allowing new packages to slide into an existing release.

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    Re: Additional 'update' CD for potato? (Score: 2, Interesting)
    by dar on Tuesday, May 29 @ 21:40:55 BST
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    Why are there no "testing" cd images? That would be fine for me. I just run a home system and it's bound to be more stable than that other brand.

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