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    Debian GNU/Hurd grows
    Posted on Wednesday, July 11 @ 07:36:43 BST

    GNU/HURD
    Philip Charles has reported on the debian-hurd list that There are now 1068 Hurd specific binaries. There were 592 at the beginning of May. 50 of these packages were excluded by apt, presumably because of dependency problems. In May 56 were excluded.
    We've been lucky to see the resumption of active hacking on GNU/Hurd over the last couple of years. Its renewed popularity amongst developers leaves one crucial question unasked: Is anyone out there using Debian GNU/Hurd on a day-to-day basis on production or end-user systems yet? If not, what are the main issues that remain?

     
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    Re: Debian GNU/Hurd grows (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 11 @ 15:01:52 BST

    > If not, what are the main issues that remain?

    stability, a good iso image, kde and gnome, official AND *up_to_date* documentation.

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    Re: Debian GNU/Hurd grows (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 11 @ 17:52:10 BST

    > f not, what are the main issues that remain?

    stable XFree ...

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    Re: Debian GNU/Hurd grows (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 11 @ 20:50:30 BST


    stable pfinet and translators.

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    Re: Debian GNU/Hurd grows (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, July 12 @ 01:59:47 BST

    Here is the URL for Philip Charles' message:

    http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd-0107/msg00002.html

    Here is the Kernel Cousin summary: http://kt.zork.net/debian-hurd/latest.html#3

    PE.

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    Debian GNU/Hurd grows -- and it needs YOU! (Score: 1, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, July 12 @ 09:48:51 BST

    I followed Hurd for a while and had the following problems (some mentioned before):

    - no PPP (work in progress, though) or PC-card

    - partition size still limited to 1Mb AFAIK

    - some critical translators unstable (pfinet, ext2fs)

    - inferior speed

    All of them are a problem for me, the first is prohibitive, the second is almost managable (use more partitions or nfs), the third makes unfeasible to use in production envirionment. Although the last is annoying, I would personally be willing to suffer a bit for the sake of progress -- I can clearly remember the speed of my first Slackware on my 486 /w 8m ram...

    I do not run the Hurd currently, as I have just a notebook and it can not stop working. Despite of these, the last time I tried the Hurd, X was up, working with blackbox more or less fine, emacs was working, mutt was working, lynx was working, R was working. All the essential system management tools are working. So? This is a working environment for many, is'nt it?

    If I had a spare machine and another running GNU/Linux all the time, I would take a day off and installed the Hurd with X and use nfs. Many report good success and you can use X clients that are not ported yet. Debugging is still one of the major tasks.

    If I could program, I would donate some work to Hurd development. The most important problem now is not the size of the microcernel, not to say Gnome or other monsters. The problem is that only microscopic programming interest is focused on the Hurd. If it could reach a minimum but fairly stable functionality, its development would surely accelerate, since the prospects are much better than in a Linux based system (ever fancied mounting ftp sites or nfs as a user...?).

    So please, programming literates, help the stupid, fix PPP and migrate packages! Then maybe also I can get back to the Hurd...

    Cheers,

    Zsombor

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    Re: Debian GNU/Hurd grows (Score: 1)
    by d00d on Saturday, July 14 @ 21:32:59 BST
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    A more transparent way to use virtual terminals. In my opinion, "screen" should be adapted to work with the same hotkeys as GNU/Linux. Because they're easier and because we're already used to do it with ALT-F?.

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    Re: Debian GNU/Hurd grows (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, July 19 @ 01:42:05 BST

    I like the idea of Debian GNU/Hurd, and I think once it gets easier to install I'll try it out - but I would like a stable X and some KDE lovin' before I do soo. On a sidenote, I'm very happy to see this amount of work being put into Hurd. Hurd Lives, surrender 🙂

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    Re: Debian GNU/Hurd grows (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 14 @ 01:06:22 GMT

    I look into using HURD as a replacement for Linux becuase it is less of a main stream OS. When HURD becomes easier to install and configure in as far as Debian GNU/Linux is with comparable functions, I will do more than play with it.

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