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    Java support in Debian
    Posted on Sunday, August 26 @ 17:38:36 BST

    This is particularly sore subject for me, many times played with this beast. EIther using Open Source JREs or proprietary ones. The majority of times I can get it to run arbitary Java applications and servlets with no problems however trying to configure the various browsers(other than Netscape 4) to use Java is very unsuccessful. Any positive experiances, in relation to Mozilla and Galeon specifically would be much appreciated.

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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 1, Informative)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, August 26 @ 18:26:09 BST

    Well everything works fine for me using sun jdk1.3.1 and mozilla 0.9.3. You just have to symlink /usr/java/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/ into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.

    I'm sad to say that but sun's jvm is the only one usable for any serious java development.

    I'm still waiting for jboss and sapdb as deb's to install java application servers on a debian platform.

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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 2, Insighful)
    by CeleryBox on Sunday, August 26 @ 21:44:35 BST
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    Well you can get blackdown's Java by adding this to your sources.list
    deb potato non-free

    They also have woody packages, check here for mirrors

    I have also installed the Netscape6 jre.xpi into Mozilla 0.9.3

    The comment about Sun's JVM (don't you mean JDK) being the only one suitable for serious development is crap!

    Both IBM's & Blackdown's JDK's are excellent development & runtime environments. I use different versions from all 3 providers depending on what I'm doing.


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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Monday, August 27 @ 14:05:04 BST

    I also have to refute the previous comment that Sun's JDK is the only serious choice for Java development. A little earlier this year, my colleagues and I conducted extremely strenuous tests involving Enhydra, a java-based open source web application server. We tested Sun's JDK 1.2.2 and 1.3, IBM's 1.1.8 and 1.2, and Blackdown's 1.3. The most reliable and efficient JDK in our test was the Blackdown JDK, upon which we have now standardised. The moral of the story; developers should try at least a couple of JDKs in order to see what works best for their application, but there is certainly more than one good choice.

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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 1)
    by MikeRepass (mrepass at yahoo dot com) on Monday, August 27 @ 20:13:13 BST
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    Sorry that I can't weigh in with any experience related to Mozilla or Galeon, but I installed Blackdown's JRE (1.3.1 I think) after adding their line to my apt sources. With KDE 2.2 running under Unstable, I told Konqueror to enable Java and the default settings worked fine. I've not tested it very thoroughly, but it worked on Yahoo Games, so I assume it should be fine for normal day to day use.


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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, August 30 @ 08:19:02 BST

    We are using java applets here at work and today we're using Win with IE5 to render that pages. But we're trying hard to make Mozilla or Galeon to work with those. I can tell you that using the last Mozilla (0.9.3) and last Galeon (can't remember release) with the Blackdown JDK 1.3.1 is perfect combination, also because Sun jdk 1.3.1 browser plugin is beta, or near. You can look at it opening Moz and going to about:plugins page.

    Also tomcat is refusing to work with our app and jdk 1.3.1 from Sun, while working just fine with Blackdown one.

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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, August 30 @ 13:48:27 BST

    I don't understand, why Blackwood JDK is not in Debian distro?

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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, August 30 @ 16:42:48 BST

    Java works transparently for me in Mozilla with the Blackdown JVM apt-getted from as another poster commented.

    I think the comment that "Sun's JVM is the only one suitable for serious development" referred to the fact that IBM, Blackdown, and probably some others, are all *derived from* Sun's sources. Thus, they're all SCSL, but none are Free.

    The free JVMs in Debian that I'm aware of are Kaffe and ORP, and I agree that at this time, neither are suitable for production use. However, I've heard that some of the ORP developers have Tomcat running in-house (they haven't released their patches yet - "soon") and when I tried my application on Kaffe the only problem was an obscure interaction between Integer.toHexCode() and StringBuffer.replace() (anyone with any insight into this is encouraged to comment on the Kaffe mailing list). Interestingly, when I made a reduced testcase for this, it segfaulted Sun/Blackdown's VM too!

    Free Java is far from dead, and good progress is being made. I have strong hopes that it won't be many months before I can run a JSP-based database-backed website on an all-free platform. And that will be a major milestone.

    -- Stuart Ballard (sballard at netreach dot net)

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    Re: Java support in Debian (Score: 1)
    by seanmeister on Tuesday, September 11 @ 13:18:17 BST
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    Ok, I'm using moz 0.9.3 (from Ximian) on potato. I've tried everything described in these comments to get java, and plugins in general, to work and I've had zero success. No Java, no Flash, nada. Any suggestions?

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