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    Task* disappears
    Contributed by sethbc on Tuesday, August 28 @ 07:26:06 BST

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    It looks like the task* packages in debian have disappeared. Does anyone know if there is going to be a replacement? In the mean time is there an easy way to install sid?

    DanielS: Yes, task-* has disappeared in favour of a new alternative, namely a Task: header in the control file. AJ Towns is the main person working on this; I believe tasksel in sid lets you select all the tasks.

     
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    Re: Task* disappears (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 28 @ 09:39:39 BST

    Hello,

    yesterday I tried to install GNOME on sid/unstable. So I searched for a task-gnome* package. But I didn´t find something. Also in "tasksel" there´s no metapackage for GNOME, just one for a "desktop"-system including KDE and GNOME. Has anyone a suggestion how to start installing it?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Task* disappears (Score: 1)
    by crazney on Tuesday, August 28 @ 10:55:24 BST
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    hmm

    any sitrep on when it will be ready?

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    Re: Task* disappears (Score: 1)
    by PygmySurfer on Tuesday, August 28 @ 21:23:05 BST
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    Yes, task-* has disappeared in favour of a new alternative, namely a Task: header in the control file. AJ Towns is the main person working on this; I believe tasksel in sid lets you select all the tasks.

    Yes, tasksel lets you select them - unfortunately, when you select Finish, it tries to install task-*, and of course, apt-get cannot find the old task-* entries. 🙂

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    tasksel is broken, task-* shouldn't have been removed (Score: 1, Insighful)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 29 @ 05:07:21 BST

    tasksel was broken last I tried to use it in "testing"; this was a major headache when installing "testing". The task-* packages were also removed from testing before being removed from unstable, causing "testing" to run in an untested configuration and fail in various ways.

    tasksel and the "Task:" header lines are no replacement for task packages anyway: (1) tasksel is an interactive program, making it unsuitable for command line use, (2) unlike task packages, header line specified tasks have no separate descriptions, (3) putting tasks into headers means that individual maintainers have to worry about it rather than someone who knows what is going on thinking about what makes sense to package together.

    As far as I can tell, there is no working way of dealing with tasks in the current distribution. Out of desparation, I wrote a little Perl script that searches through the package info, extracts all the info from the Task: lines, and allows me to install tasks from the command line; unfortunately, that doesn't help much when getting other systems installed because it isn't a standard part of Debian.

    Altogether, I am not happy with this change: I question whether it was a good decision to get rid of the task-* packages in the first place and tie task information to packages, but even once the decision was made, it seems to me it was executed in violation of Debian policies and has caused problems when installing/upgrading. At the very least, the changeover should have started in "unstable", and it should have waited until "tasksel" was actually working and had a command line variant.

    A workaround I would suggest is to automatically construct task-* packages from the Task: header lines. That way, people get whatever benefit they thought they would get from the Task: header lines, and the rest of us can continue to "apt-get install task-something".

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