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    Debian Release Update
    Submitted by robster on Friday, December 03, 2004 – 14:48
    SargeRelease assistant, Andreas Barth, has posted an update on the current state of the release process. It looks like GNOME 2.8 will be included, which is great news for the Debian desktop sub-project since this means that next stable release will provide even better desktop support than woody and also provide a good base for the likes of Ubuntu.

    Unfortunately the lack of autobuilders for testing-security is delaying the progress of the release, since the release managers do not want to encourage the use of testing without security support, let alone release.

    Since the festive season is almost upon us, which tends to reduce the time availability and productivity of developers the best bet for a release is in the first quarter of 2005.

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    Subject: Ubuntu as test base?
    Author: danielos
    Date: Saturday, 2005/01/08 – 13:01
    Hoary is now in alpha stage and include xserver-xorg, also X package in Ubuntu came from 4.3.99 xfree (last ‘free’ release).

    I used Debian for a decade now and I stay with unstable all the time, sometime with experimental if I think it is ok.

    I think development and testing of experimental package should be done in debian experimental project, or however inside Debian first.

    And, yes, autobuilder and automatic tools are very important for Debian, being the largest distro out there.

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    Subject: I can see how developers might disagree
    Author: JoeBuck
    Date: Saturday, 2005/01/15 – 19:09
    The problem with Debian development is that many things depend on
    people who are mysteriously missing in action, or who go for weeks
    without answering mail, or who don’t bother responding to release
    critical bugs with patches attached that fix the problem, and then they scream when someone finally does an NMU.

    With Ubuntu, there are paid staff who work full-time to clean up
    problems, and they can be switched to the highest priority task.
    It’s a lot easier to get a distro out in that environment, so I won’t be surprised if a lot of old-time Debian developers jump to Ubuntu.

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    Subject: Kernel Requirement
    Author: haldir
    Date: Sunday, 2004/12/12 – 18:01
    Doesn’t Gnome 2.8 require kernel 2.6.x for some features. I notice the Sarge installer is still installing 2.4.x as the default. I assume this will have to change or not?
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    Subject: Another delay?
    Author: KiyuKo
    Date: Friday, 2004/12/10 – 15:18
    I think we can’t continue delaying the release date. I know GNOME and KDE are important packages for desktop users, but I’m not sure the Debian target is really interested in having the lastest version. GNOME 2.6 is just a good piece of software, and 2.8 can wait 3.1r1 to enter Sarge. If we don’t stop uploading new packages, we’ll never get a frozen system and never release
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    Subject: Cause for delay
    Author: hazelsct
    Date: Friday, 2004/12/10 – 19:04
    GNOME 2.8 is not at all any part of the cause for the delay. Read the story carefully, you’ll see that there are infrastructure reasons for delaying the release. These issues just give us time to put GNOME 2.8 in sarge.

    And we’re just about there. Except for evolution (RC bugs with patch), control center (waiting for s390 build) and gnumeric (waiting for sparc build), GNOME 2.8 is already in sarge, and not adding to the delay already there.

    -Adam P.

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    Subject: Release Proposals
    Author: dale
    Date: Wednesday, 2004/12/08 – 00:21
    Some ideas on a future release mechanism:

    Wiki Release Proposals

    Debian planet looks a good place for users to give input…
    And maybe even have a poll for voting for the options?

    — Dale;

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