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    GNOME 2.0.1 Desktop RC1: “Not Considered Harmful” released
    Submitted by robot101 on Friday, August 09, 2002 – 20:44
    GNOMEThe first release candidate for the first point release of the GNOME 2 Desktop is now available on GNOME mirrors. Whilst it’s not in Debian yet, we like GNOME so we’re posting it straight away (read: robot101 is a hopeless gnome weenie 😉 –joy). The last I heard, the plan is to put GNOME 2 into unstable when 2.0.1 (final) is out. As with all 2.0.x releases, the focus is bug fixes, UI tweaks, translation and general polishing. See the announcement and list of closed bugs.
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    Subject: How can GNOME be so quick?
    Author: chakie
    Date: Monday, 2002/08/12 – 08:46
    How can GNOME be so quick to get packages done? The 2.0.1 rc1 can’t be too old, and it already has more or less official packages created. While KDE 3.x is half a year old, I still haven’t seen anything about it for Debian, at least nothing more official.

    I don’t want to flame, and as I’m not skilled enough to help out with packages, I’ll wait for them to eventually appear some day. But what makes KDE so much slower to get Debianized compared to Gnome? Is there some kind of anti-KDE attitude among Debian developers, or just a hardcore pro-Gnome one?

    Just curious.

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    Subject: Packages have been here for ages
    Author: Daniel S
    Date: Monday, 2002/08/12 – 12:00
    KDE 3.x packages have been around for ages. The current place to find them is http://www.davidpashley.com/kde.txt; read the instructions in there. If you need help, drop into #debian-kde on irc.openprojects.net, after reading kde.txt.
    Among Debian, some people are there for the capital-F-Free part, and buy into the whole “Qt was non-Free once, therefore it must suck” argument – their loss. Sadly, some DP staff seem to have this attitude, and continue spreading bullshit FUD about KDE; try to ignore this, and judge for yourself, with the debs.
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    Subject: KDE is big and hairy
    Author: robot101
    Date: Monday, 2002/08/12 – 10:25
    I think the subject says it all. Other distributions will be inclined to put kde into one big bundle of flergh and put it in /opt/kde. You can’t do that in debian. It has to be split up into logical units, each has to be given a description and appropriate relations to other packages. Even the kdelibs package is coming under scrutiny for separation because not all of the .so files within change so version together. Anyway, the KDE packages available already at calc.cx (IIRC) are by the official KDE maintainer in Debian. He will upload them when they are ready.

    As for GNOME, the point release of the desktop just takes relatively recent releases of all the GNOME packages included, and says they work well together. The individual packages have already been released and had some time in which to upload to Debian. And the GNOME maintainers have a much greater upload-first ask-questions-later mentality, and lots of time on their hands, it seems.

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