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    Intermittent Debian Planet problems
    Submitted by DanielS on Thursday, December 19, 2002 – 04:04
    Some of you may have noticed that DP is sometimes down; this is not due to hardware failure, or co-location sucking, or anything like that – instead, apache uses all the CPU power, to the point where the load average spirals high enough to kill all the web sessions. If anyone has experienced this problem with Apache 1.3, Drupal and PHP4, please send us an email. In the meantime, we’ll try to resolve this issue.
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    Subject: mysql?
    Author: dopey
    Date: Friday, 2002/12/27 – 16:01
    last time i noticed something like this.. it was a mysql-related problem.

    next time the load gets up, run a ‘mysqladmin processlist’.

    i found a lot of the processes were hanging over update statements on the watchdog table – eventually, i pinned it down to the auto_increment for the “id” field, and a broken cleanup of the watchdog table. i’d suggest looking at re-writing bits of it, so to avoid using auto_increment. (maybe change the ‘timestamp’ field to a more appropate type, and have that as the primary?)

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    Subject: Yow.
    Author: DanielS
    Date: Saturday, 2002/12/28 – 00:08
    Thanks, we’ll check it out next time this happens. 🙂
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    Subject: Apache 2 Fixes
    Author: agazeus
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/12/24 – 00:43
    I haven’t used Apache 2 myself, but I’ve heard it’s alot more stable than previous releases…Comments?
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    Subject: not much difference
    Author: Fruit
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/12/24 – 02:27
    I’m using apache2 now (I wanted it so I could run a Subversion server) but in terms of stability I don’t notice much of a difference. Apache never crashed on me.

    Running PHP is a pain though, you’ll have to compile it yourself and (at least the version I’m running) won’t survive a reload, you have to stop and start each time you change the configuration.

    Too bad mod_python is so slow, it seems like a much better choice otherwise.


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    Subject: Maybe it’s time to drop D
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Monday, 2002/12/23 – 09:34
    Maybe it’s time to drop Drupal. 😉
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    Subject: Apache 2
    Author: MBCook
    Date: Sunday, 2002/12/22 – 21:08
    Sounds like a good chance to start to move over to apache 2 to me 🙂
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    Subject: Apache 2
    Author: agazeus
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/12/24 – 00:41
    Yeah, Apache 2 sounds good
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    Subject: too many number about Maxclients directive?
    Author: henrich
    Date: Sunday, 2002/12/22 – 14:49
    too big maxclients cause spiral down.
    see your httpd.conf and try to find your setting.
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    Subject: post your /etc/apache/httpd.c
    Author: cd34
    Date: Thursday, 2002/12/19 – 19:58
    post your /etc/apache/httpd.conf

    try turning off Keepalives
    Increase the MaxRequestsPerChild to 5000 or more

    Disable Extendedstatus, Expires, unique_id

    show processlist; in mysql to see if anything is taking an unusually long time to process — any select or update statements that seem to hang around.

    I’m guessing persistent mysql connections (I haven’t used drupal)

    timeout on mysql high enough to avoid constant reconnects to the mysql server?

    Try APC


    debian package php4-apc

    However, my guess is that you have some apache processes that have tons of cpu time used. This would probably point to a mysql lock that is being held — which holds up the other processes, which prevents things from being served until the machine spirals to its death.

    Look at the select & update commands in drupal and run them with explain and see which ones use filesort rather than an index.

    If you worked with mysql and made a copy of a table, i.e. rename table oldtable; create table newtable select * from oldtable; your indexes will not have moved across. This would cause some problems if the data set was large enough.

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    Subject: Maybe the problem with the php ?
    Author: gal_ga
    Date: Thursday, 2002/12/19 – 18:05
    What PHP modules do you use ?
    I know about problem with the domxml module – memory leaks.
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    Subject: Maybe this will help?
    Author: forming134
    Date: Thursday, 2002/12/19 – 15:33
    It sounds too me like it may be related to this thread on lkml:

    Very High Load, kernel 2.4.18, apache/mysql

    At a glance it mentions Apache going out of control, Debian, and PHP, so might be a good place to start looking and compare.

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    Subject: www.debian.hu powered by drupal with no problem
    Author: trey
    Date: Thursday, 2002/12/19 – 07:47
    I have 3 site, 1 powered by drupal, mysql, php4, apache 1.3.27, mod_ssl and I have’t any problem like this.

    the machine:
    – dual PIII 1260Mhz
    – 1GB RAM
    – SCSI UW-3 HDD
    – GE and 10/100 eth. controller

    OS: FreeBSD 4.7

    the bandwidth:

    – 100Mbit/sec

    hosted sites:
    www.hup.hu (phpnuke)
    www.hup.hu/english (phpnuke)
    www.debian.hu (drupal)



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