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    Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Submitted by Baloo_Ursidae on Wednesday, August 15, 2001 – 10:44
    I’ve been quiet about this a bit too long here, and I’m not thinking I’m alone on this: Debian Mozilla 0.9.1 broke the NS4 Flash plugin, and apparently java as well in the browser. I know I shouldn’t be complaining because it’s in sid, but considering the godawful slow release cycle and things break without any sign of repair (whereas other packages generally have next-day turnarounds on noticable bugs) makes me wonder just when it was I switched to Internet Explorer for Debian Linux…

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2001/08/17 – 11:25
    In my plugin-dir (about:plugins) there is only the default plugin-handler listed. It doesn’t care about any other file i put there…

    it’s not working proberly….
    Any idea’s ??

    yours sebastian

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2001/08/17 – 06:03
    Most problems with mozilla and plugins are due to another application using the sound card at the same moment.
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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2001/08/16 – 07:31
    still seems to work in konqueror (both 2.2beta1 and final)
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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2001/08/16 – 02:34
    Using either galeon or moz alone here exclusively
    since .8 or so. Can’t recall having a problem.

    I’ve just copied libflashplayer.so to
    /where/ever/moz/is/plugins/ each time.

    Lately, (past few releases) even the java stuff has
    worked well. Hushmail and all.

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 23:01
    You need to upgrade Mozilla to 0.9.3. I believe that official Sid package is 0.9.3 currently. Also, there are unofficial .debs, and an apt-get source for CVS builds.
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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: hone
    Date: Friday, 2001/08/17 – 00:51
    Yeah, I had small issues with Mozilla with deb packages. I did a work around though with Mozilla 0.9.3. I first had to get the java plugin from the ns site for ns6. Then when I installed all the other plugins worked. Then after I closed mozilla, it wouldn’t let me start it up saying something about had to allow previous attempt to close. Please Restart. So I restarted, to no avail. I then copied the /usr/lib/mozilla-0.9.3 folder to somewhere else. Removed mozilla. Reinstalled it. I then replaced the mozilla folder with the one I copied. Then it worked. Hope this helps.
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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: boecko
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 21:35
    just read bugzilla… it’s a problem with the
    flash plugin wanting access to the dsp device

    if the esd -daemon is running, you can
    start mozilla with:
    esddsp mozilla

    and it works perfectly

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    Subject: Also in Potato
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 18:23
    This is also a problem in potato — no plugins work.
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    Subject: Re: Also in Potato
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 20:36
    Odd… I’m sitting in front of a 2.2r3 current box, typing this into Mozilla 0.93, into which I have installed both Flash 4 and the java plugin from the Netscape site. (Sun’s plugin crashes it, though.)

    All I did for the Flash plugin was visit a site with a java applet to get the popup directing me to the Netscape site for the java plugin, which installed itself just fine but left the installer hung up — had to kill it manually. Then, I copied my existing libflashplayer.so and ShockwaveFlash.class into the appropriate plugins directory (for me, it’s ~/mozilla/plugins/) and went off to joecartoon.com to test it.

    I had ’em both working in 0.92, as well, but didn’t try prior to that because the rendering latency was glacial in the earlier versions.

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    Subject: Re: Also in Potato
    Author: kyrre
    Date: Thursday, 2001/08/16 – 10:04
    Odd… I’m sitting in front of a 2.2r3 current box, typing this into Mozilla… Both Flash and suns java plugin has been installed.

    The mozilla crashing problem was sorted out with two entries in /etc/ld.so.conf

    Might just do it for you too. The sun plugin works better than the netscape release.

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    Subject: Re: Also in Potato
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 20:11
    correct! mozilla 0.9.1/2./3 cnnot use jav and flash under potato.
    ..this is a problem for netscape 6.1 too.

    MaX

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    Subject: The problem is registered in bugzilla
    Author: mansoft
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 14:51
    Bugzilla, Mozilla’s bug tracking system, has already registered this problem. Bug #86591 is marked as priority=critical. However, if it was marked as priority=blocker, it could get more attention.

    Personally I think this has to be solved ASAP. Simply you can’t foresee if a web site will contain flash or java.

    You can register a new account at bugzilla to report new bugs or to help. You can also vote for a bug to be solved. One of my 10 available votes has definitely gone to bug 86591.

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 13:55
    There was a little span of time when I couldn’t get it to work, but it’s working in the CVS builds (which I’ve found to be perfectly stable.) You have to be careful of a couple of things:

    1. Which directory you place the plugin files into. They need to go in /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs.

    2. Flash captures the audio system for a moment when starting up, so you can’t have any music playing when you fire up your browser the first time. At first I thought it was hung, but I saw my CPU spike when my MP3 playlist was finished and it turned out to be Mozilla finishing its startup sequence.

    I’m running debian unstable, btw. Vive la Flash.

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: cpt_nemo
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 17:36
    The flash plugin needs access to /dev/dsp while it starts. It also seems that the flash plugin is not aware of esd. The solution for me was to start mozilla as a child of esddsp: /usr/bin/esddsp /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla.

    This is in bugzilla as well (bug #58339).

    I’m not sure this is related to the java/flash-problem, though.

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: phill
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 13:02
    This is nuts …! Java and Flash have worked perfectly since I’ve been using them on Mozilla 0.8. In addition I have now made over 25 different installations (including a couple of RH and Mandrake) and managed to set it up each time. Mostly they work first time using the .tar.gz packages, once or twice I’ve used the XPIs and if they haven’t worked I’ve cleaned out the plugin dir and re-tried the installation until it does. For me this just proves the recent post about the usability of Sid – if you don’t know completely what you’re doing, don’t use it. People shouldn’t be using it if they can only survive on .debs. Additionally since 0.9.1 has been out for over two months and if it were actually a bug, why haven’t you simply switched to konqueror or back to Netscape 4.7 – both of which have flash and java support, or been reporting you findings on bugzilla?
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    Subject: Copy of comments from a post a week ago…
    Author: phill
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 13:06
    Re: Mozilla 0.9.1 on Sid and Plugins (Score: 1)
    by droo on Sunday, August 12 @ 04:10:23 BST

    I found a solution on Dejanews that worked for me.

    The solution is to make a libXt.so symlink in /usr/lib to /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so. Flash worked like a charm after that.

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    Subject: Re: Copy of comments from a post a week ago…
    Author: droo
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 16:58
    I forgot to mention at that time that I’m using woody, not sid. I did pull 0.9.3 from sid and flash still works.
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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: SLuGgy
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 11:22
    I don’t use the .deb packages… I installed Mozilla 0.9.3 with the installer (from the Mozilla website).

    Then I downloaded the plugins I needed from ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.1/unix/linux22/xpi : flash.xpi for Flash, jre.xpi for Java, …

    I opened these .xpi files in Mozilla (using file:// as url) and Mozilla installed the plugins at the right place.

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: jdv
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 11:15
    While I can indeed not run Flash in Mozilla anymore, the problem doesn’t seem to be restricted to Debian. When I download the binaries from mozilla.org I cannot install the flash plugin for it either.

    OTOH Java seems to be running well here.

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2001/08/17 – 23:12
    In Mandrake 8.0 using mozilla 0.9.3 (the tarball version from mozilla.org) the plugin flash runs fine but in my Debian Sid does not work.
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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: tourettes
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 10:53

    “..makes me wonder just when it was I switched to Internet Explorer for Debian Linux…”

    there is an Internet Explorer for linux?

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    Subject: Re: Mozilla and Macromedia Flash
    Author: jdv
    Date: Wednesday, 2001/08/15 – 11:16
    I think the point was that he can view less pages than he used to be able too. Just like people who upgrade their IE can no longer see applets.
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