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    New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 seconds!
    Submitted by Netsnipe on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 – 15:57
    CD ImagesDespite the recent expression of disappointment over Woody’s delayed
    release by many, we can all at least be very proud now that Debian
    GNU/Linux is now officially the fastest operating system in the world
    setting a new
    record
    of 401 megabits/second over 12,272 km. Making the victory
    ever sweeter is that we’ve dethroned Microsoft who previously held the
    Internet Land Speed Record of 830 megabits/second over 5,626 km that
    was set in March 2000.
    Congratulations to the team consisting of the University of Alaska at
    Fairbanks; the Faculty of Science of the University of Amsterdam and
    SURFnet, the national computer network for higher education and
    research in the Netherlands, and thanks for very much for
    demonstrating to the world that Debian GNU/Linux still has what it
    takes to be up with the very best.

    Let’s keep our fingers crossed that one day we can also dethrone
    FreeBSD’s load handling record of two
    terabytes in a single day off a single server. The Debian project has
    an official press release here.

    Now if only someone could donate this connection (which is 8000 times
    faster than my poor overworked 56K modem) to me seeing how bad broadband in
    Australia is becoming.

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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 seconds!
    Author: Vepeti
    Date: Friday, 2002/05/24 – 14:40
    How can Debian be the fastest OS. It’s not an OS. You mean Linux instead P

    -Vépeti-

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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 second
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/05/24 – 14:54
    Debian IS an OS, Linux is a kernel.
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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 seconds!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/05/24 – 11:50
    Now that you mention the delay : from that announcement : “As such,
    an alternate arrangement, involving some moderately significant changes
    to the existing autobuilder system are being made, which should become
    active over the next week or so.”

    That was april 30. After those changes I guess it would take another couple of days to test and maybe fix a few things and build it. So… We’re 3 weeks further… Any updates on the status ???
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    Subject: Last I checked, 403 < 830
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 06:53
    Ok,

    I admit it; I’ve been out of grad school for over 10 years, and my math is a bit rusty. So would someone PLEASE explain how/why moving Debian at 401 Mbps is better/faster/cooler than moving Microsoft at 830 Mbps? (aside from the obvious Jab about Microsoft being unsafe at any speed, of course.)

    Honestly, I don’t get it – why is this a new record? What am I missing?

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    Subject: Re: Last I checked, 403 < 830
    Author: bluesmurf
    Date: Friday, 2002/05/24 – 01:11
    I thought doing *anything* with a OS other than Microsoft was better/cooler 🙂

    Have fun!

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    Subject: I get it now
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 07:05
    Had to dig through a couple of levels of links, but I get it now. The land-speed-record is not just about bitrate, but about the product of bit-rate and distance. (in other words, the measurement is of “bit-meters”/second, not simply bits/second)

    When you think about it, this *does* make sense in terms of what they are trying to achieve; when you double the distance, you are doubling the transmission round-trip delay, which causes problems for TCP on LFNs (networking term: Long Fat Networks – usually pronounced “elephants”) So to win the award, they don’t have to just have fast hardware, but fast, well-tuned TCP stacks which can handle the special problems posed by LFNs. (There are a series of TCP options which deal with things like Window scaling, protecting against packet “serial numbers” wrapping around, etc. In order to win this competition, your TCP stack will need to support these extensions, *and* be well tuned (minimizing data copies, etc.)

    So it’s actually a pretty smart contest, designed so that to win the bragging rights, you have to deal with all the “real-world” problems involved in moving lots of bits over long distances the same way “real applications” would do it.

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    Subject: Muscle is still better 😉
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 21:00
    I just threw a box of 20 dual layer DVDs across the room. So that’s, uhum, 20 * 9 GB across a distance of 5 meter in, say, 1 second. I recon that comes down to roughly 600 Mbps over a distance of 12 km.

    Seriously, nice work from the Linux TCP gurus and kudos to Debian for being along for the ride!

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    Subject: Re: Last I checked, 403 < 830
    Author: Netsnipe
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 07:02
    Look at the distances involved.
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    Subject: Re: Last I checked, 403 < 830
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 07:09
    I did. (see my other reply comment.)

    But you have to admit: on first read, “internet land SPEED record” sounds like you’re measuring speed.

    If this were a foot race, you wouldn’t say:
    Bob ran 100 meters in 10 seconds, but Joe ran 1000 meters in 95 seconds, so Joe wins the new record! – why? because usually “races” are defined to a race against the clock for a specified distance.

    Anyway, as stated elsewhere, I get it now, it just wasn’t very obvious from the article summary what the big deal was.

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    Subject: Re: Last I checked, 403 < 830
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Friday, 2002/05/24 – 22:54
    To stay at the foot race:

    If Joe was slower than Bob, he would have to run each hundrets of meters in more than 10 seconds, resulting in a overall time of more than 100 seconds. So Joe has to run some 100 meters in less then 10 seconds and therefor is deifnitively faster than Bob.

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    Subject: One Woody CD in 78 seconds!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 04:16
    Correction, that was ONE (1) CD in 78 seconds, not SIX (6) as the article heading suggests.
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    Subject: Re: One Woody CD in 78 seconds!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/05/29 – 05:16
    “With an internet connection of this size transferring all six CDs of Woody from Fairbanks to Amsterdam would only require 78 seconds. We’re in need of faster CD burners, it would seem.”
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    Subject: Re: One Woody CD in 78 seconds!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 21:41
    1CD= 640Mbytes
    640*8=5120Mbits
    5120(Mbits)/400(Mbits/sec)=12.8 secs
    12.8*6=76.8 secs
    Simple is it not?
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    Subject: Re: One Woody CD in 78 seconds!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 06:36
    No, it was one CD in 13 seconds, which would be 6 in 78 seconds.
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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 seconds!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/05/22 – 22:27
    Well that’s pretty cool, nice to see some good publicity. Still don’t get to cocky after all any linux box could do it, i don’t think the package management had anything to do with it. Also given the chance FreeBSD probably could acheive the same thing. Probably plenty of non-free systems could have done it as well. It’s cool that they chose a linux system to do this, but the network is the real topic here not what the nodes on either end where running.
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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 second
    Author: anothertom
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 00:42
    Of course the package management did it.
    It was a packet-switched connection after all !

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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 second
    Author: zadok
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/05/22 – 22:35
    You never know 😉
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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 second
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/05/22 – 18:09
    OK. I want to get this straight.

    Is Woody NOW released or not? Confusing. Can I choose between Ext3 and so on?

    Thanks.

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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 second
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/05/22 – 18:41
    Nope, woody is not released. And yep, ext3 is an option in the debian install. I don’t remember what the other options are (reiser, etc…).
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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 seconds!
    Author: wobin
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/05/22 – 17:07
    Well well,

    I guess now is the time to get those 1Gb interfaces on my matter-transmitters…

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    Subject: Re: New Internet Land Speed Record! 6 Woody CDs in 78 seconds!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Thursday, 2002/05/23 – 00:27
    Dude, hook me up! I need to get overseas as soon as, man!
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    Subject: Insighful!
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/05/22 – 18:42
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