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    Ogg Vorbis 1.0 released!
    Submitted by robot101 on Friday, July 19, 2002 – 22:12
    MultimediaEarlier today xiph.org announced their release of the 1.0 version of the Vorbis audio codec. For those who have been paying absolutely no attention recently, MP3 is evil and patent-encumbered (explaining lack of encoders in Debian) so we’re all very happy to see Vorbis releasing. The codec is patent-free and BSD licensed (with RMS’s approval – for maximum dissemination) and the rest of the tools GPL’d.

    The Debian maintainer, Chris Cheney (calc) prepared debs at the same time as the upstream release, but the libvorbis0 library is languishing in incoming awaiting the attention of the FTP masters (they may be busy with something else). Meanwhile you can get all the debs here.

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    Subject: XMMS
    Author: hone
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 03:05
    Has anyone noticed that with the new libvorbis0, it removes the xmms plugin, or is that just me. I’m running debian sid. Just wondering, and if I try ot use libvorbis0 from rc3 I can’t install vorbis-tools b/c of dependency errors, but yet the libs aren’t up on the ftp. Just wondering. Thanks.

    -Hone

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    Subject: you can also just create a symlink
    Author: blackisha
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/29 – 15:18
    if you start xmms from the command line, it says something like:
    libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
    just create a link in /usr/lib:
    cd /usr/lib
    ln -s libvorbisfile.so.3.0.0 libvorbisfile.so.0

    or maybe symlink to the libvorbisfile.so.3, just incase minor numbers change

    This may cause weird errors/bugs, but it hasnt so far on my box, i dont think libvorbisfile has changed much at all from rc3 to 1.0

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    Subject: As it says in the article…
    Author: robot101
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 10:56
    libvorbis0 isn’t installed into the archive yet. It still isn’t. Get it from the site linked to… oh… in the article. As for xmms, probably needs rebuilding.

    Robster is a monkey
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    Subject: Okay, rebuilding?
    Author: hone
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 22:22
    Rebuilding?
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    Subject: Yup
    Author: rvf
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 03:09
    It seems that an updated xmms package has yet to be released, but I assume it should be soon, so you should check for an updated package first before going through all this.

    Here’s what I had to do. If you don’t have usual C/C++ dev packages installed, you may need to do more. If the build command fails, it will give you a list of build dependencies.

    Remove xmms:
        apt-get remove xmms

    Make sure you have the apt-get source lines for sid in your sources.list:
        deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
        deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sid/non-US main contrib non-free

    Install the build dependencies. This is just what I needed, YMMV:
        apt-get install libdb3-dev libesd0-dev libmikmod2-dev libxml-dev libtool libgnome-dev libpanel-applet-dev

    Then grab the xmms source and build the package:
        apt-get source xmms -b

    Assuming it compiles correctly, you should have the xmms deb file and the corresponding -dev package in the current directory. Install them, and go play some oggs. 🙂

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    Subject: Thanks, but..
    Author: hone
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 04:32
    Thanks, it worked, but it seems everytime I build a package from source and install it, apt-get dist-upgrade wants to repalce it with a normal one from the repository..
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    Subject: Increment the version
    Author: robster
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 05:06
    If you increment the version by .1 (point one) then it will get replaced when a new package is uploaded but wont for the older version =)

    Cheers

    Rob ‘robster’ Bradford
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    Subject: Oh..
    Author: hone
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 07:59
    Sorry for asking so many questions, but how do I do that?
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    Subject: Well…
    Author: robot101
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 14:22
    Before you build, go into the source dir and edit debian/changelog, and increment the Debian revision (the bit after the last -) by 0.0.1. Then your package version will be greater than the version available on the mirror, so apt will not replace it, but will not be greater than any newer version of the package that appears.

    Robster is a monkey
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    Subject: To Held a package
    Author: gyu
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 15:01
    Hi,

    I think that:
    echo hold packagename |dpkg –set-selections
    Is a nice, better, etc. solution:-)

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    Subject: This is missing the point
    Author: robot101
    Date: Thursday, 2002/07/25 – 03:44
    If you have rebuilt locally a binary package for the sole reason of updating the binary dependencies, then there’s no reason to continue using this package when one appears on the mirror that you are able to install. Hence in this situation it is correct to increment the debian release number by 0.0.1 to indicate a binary NMU (even if it doesn’t leave your system) rather than stick the package on hold, which gives you no indication of if or when a new uploaded version is available for you. If you have made other modifications to the package, changing build options, etc, then you can increment the version a not (even add an epoch, eww) or put it on hold. This is, however, a different scenario to the one discussed in this thread.

    Read the article *and* the comments
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    Subject: MP3 patent
    Author: Thing
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 12:23
    Shouldn’t we just set up patent.debian.org, in a similar vein to non-US.debian.org, and put the MP3 encoders in patent/main, or whatever?
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    Subject: No,
    Author: glenalec
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 00:57
    big_faceless_corporations_are_stifling_the_future_for_short-term_gain.debian.org

    That should cover soft-patents, DRMS and the whole sad-sad-cirkus.

    And the lenght of the name discourages use 😉

    ——–
    Glenn Alexander – the man with no surname and a silly hat.

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    Subject: Ironically
    Author: robot101
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 14:39
    Something like this already exists due to Christian Marillat not being bothered by copyright/patent etc. See here.

    Now that crypto is in main, the main reason for non-US is for patented stuff, and illegal GPL-linked-to-OpenSSL software. Once the latter is sorted, we can rename it non-at-all and put all the stuff that’s patented in France and Germany in. Like MP3 encoders. But who cares? We have Ogg.

    Robster is a monkey

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    Subject: Erm…
    Author: Moof
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 13:16
    Isn’t that what non-free is for?
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    Subject: Er, no
    Author: robot101
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 14:36
    Non-free is for software which we can distribute but doesn’t comply to the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).

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