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    Sarge AMD64 support
    Submitted by robster on Sunday, April 24, 2005 – 10:03
    SargePorter Andreas Jochens sent in an update on the status of the AMD64 port of Debian: “Almost all packages build now on amd64 without problems using the pristine Debian sarge sources.”

    At the moment though sarge will ship with sources that are capable of being used to build packages for the AMD64 architecture, unfortunately however the architecture will not be included in the official sarge archive due to mirror constraints. Miquel van Smoorenburg however pointed out that many mirrors will end up mirroring the unofficial port, wasting space by storing the sources twice.

    Andreas has suggested is that the binary port be maintained by the Debian AMD64 team and stored on Alioth as it currently is and that project officially recognises the port and includes pointers to it in the appropriate release documentation. Release manager, Steve Langasek expressed his concerns regarding debian-installer, the support of security team, source synchronisation and the ability to do point releases.

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    Subject: This is ridiculous
    Author: ogxela
    Date: Tuesday, 2005/04/26 – 01:55
    I’m the sysadmin for a PHP/MySQL shop that runs entirely off of 2P Opteron servers. Right now we’re running Fedora because of RedHat’s licensing nastiness for their Enterprise Edition. I’ve shown our CIO how great Debian’s packaging and security updates are compared to FC, and he’s pretty impressed, BUT it’s a total no-go until there’s official support with security updates.

    And now it’s not going to happen so the mirrors can make room for all 12 people using debian/ARM? Ridiculous. Why on earth is Debian shutting out a up-and-coming architecture to make room for obsolete ones? I know we can run in 32-bit mode, but there’s a HUGE performance advantage to running MySQL and SSL in 64-bit.

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    Subject: Oh please…
    Author: hazelsct
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/05/04 – 03:05
    Okay, I realize your post was pure flamebait, but…

    First of all, Debian ARM has a whole lot more than twelve users. Debian ARM is the basis for Familiar, which is the distribution of choice for handhelds such as the iPaq and Zaurus. ARM CPUs are still manufactured and die-shrunk like i386 and PPC. Maybe you should be on your soapbox about the truly-obsolete HPPA or mipsel ports? (After all, how many mipsel-based DECstations are still alive?)

    Second, ARM (and mipsel and HPPA) had to meet stringent requirements to be one of the six arches in the Potato release. It continued to meet those requirements to release with Woody, and aside from recent hardware failures in a couple of buildds, has kept up with sarge quite well thank you. GNOME 2 and Enlightenment run very nicely on a 200 MHz Netwinder.

    Third, why has AMD64 NOT made the grade in terms of getting into sarge, with the years it has had to do so? The pure64 port has come pretty close, but that was “not good enough”, everybody wanted this extremely complicated mixed 32/64-bit environment to work. And it just didn’t get done in enough time. Sorry.

    Quit whining about how much more quickly and easily other less-common arches have come up to speed with installation and package building, and get back to work on making AMD64 work properly. Maybe if you and others like you had done so earlier, your precious arch wouldn’t be in this predicament!

    -Adam P.

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