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    Sarge released!
    Submitted by robster on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 – 20:44
    SargeJust because you read it on Slashdot doesn’t mean its not true. (Official announcement). When upgrading don’t forget to read the release notes. A very small problem with the original CD images produced has also been discovered. Fixed images are on their way.
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    Subject: I’m gone download it tonight
    Author: vivekg
    Date: Friday, 2005/06/10 – 14:19
    I’m using 3.1 since last 5-6 months and looking to upgrade it to stable one 🙂 Thank god no more rpm troubles and I’m really happy with it …


    Vivek G Gite

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    Subject: X.org on sid?
    Author: danielos
    Date: Thursday, 2005/06/09 – 14:49
    the time is up?
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    Subject: x.org
    Author: TreoTom
    Date: Tuesday, 2005/07/19 – 11:29
    Indeed, x.org has been added to sid – enjoy!

    Treo Tom
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    Subject: hopefully soon 🙂
    Author: petteri
    Date: Thursday, 2005/06/09 – 17:01
    hopefully soon 🙂
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    Subject: At last! But…
    Author: bronto
    Date: Thursday, 2005/06/09 – 11:30
    …but I hope that the release cycle will be tightened up somehow. Three years between two stable releases…

    At large, software that is is in sarge has changed deeply comparing to the same software that was in woody -just think about GNOME and KDE to tell two… but also libraries, and compilers, and X window… fundamental components of the OS have evolved so much and so fast after woody was released, that they could well be considered obsolete after 12/18 months…

    If only a stable release could be scheduled once a year… 🙁

    Ciao
    –bronto

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    Subject: sources.list
    Author: zigg
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/06/08 – 13:13
    Something bothers me very much about the release “fix”:

    “A bug has been discovered in the 3.1r0 CD/DVD images: new installs from these images will have a commented-out entry in /etc/apt/sources.list for “http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates” rather than an active entry for “http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates”, and thus will not get security updates by default.”

    I might just be misunderstanding this, but this seems to mean that when etch becomes stable, suddenly everyone’s otherwise stable sarge systems will start fetching security updates from etch, thus breaking the stability, as it were.

    It seems to me that neither “testing/updates” nor “stable/updates” is correct. We need “sarge/updates”.

    I always set my sources.list to sarge for this reason. Am I just not understanding something?

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    Subject: “I might just be misunders
    Author: Steltek
    Date: Thursday, 2005/06/09 – 15:12
    “I might just be misunderstanding this”

    You are, the original advisory states: “new installs from these images will have a commented-out entry…”

    Commented-out as in: The line is not active. (ie it has 2 flaws: 1. it points to testing instead of stable and 2. once you have fixed 1 you will have to actually activate it by un-commenting it)

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    Subject: sources.list
    Author: olivier.saugeon
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/06/08 – 13:44
    I think you are right : I never use ‘stable’ in sources.list just because when the stable release is changed you will perform a release update instead of just security updates. Even if the stable release is not changed every day, it might be a problem if you have set an automatic update or if you didn’t notice the new release.
    By using the release name (‘woody’, ‘sarge’,…) I’m sure of what release I’m using and I must myself change the release name to perform a release update : there is no more confusion, I now if I’m doing a security update or a release update.

    Despite that detail, thanks to whole Debian for this new release.

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    Subject: upgrade vs. dist-upgrade
    Author: petterah
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/06/08 – 23:16
    You will not get a new stable release with “stable” in sources.list, running apt-get upgrade, you’d have to run apt-get dist-upgrade.

    stable is safe for now… anyway, no new stable for some time 😉

    -peace-
    – pah –

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    Subject: re: upgrade vs. dist-upgrade
    Author: psmith
    Date: Thursday, 2005/06/09 – 19:20
    You will not get a new stable release with “stable” in sources.list, running apt-get upgrade, you’d have to run apt-get dist-upgrade.

    Not so. The only difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that “upgrade” only installs new versions of packages you already have installed, but never adds new packages. dist-upgrade will do what’s necessary to get you to the new distribution, including adding new packages if necessary. If your source.list points to stable and you run “upgrade”, you’ll upgrade all your current packages to sarge versions but you won’t install any new packages. This is probably not what you want.

    stable is safe for now… anyway, no new stable for some time 😉

    Well, that’s true 🙂

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    Subject: ops
    Author: petterah
    Date: Saturday, 2005/06/11 – 00:20
    Ops, my bad, sorry… anyways, its safe to use the name in sources.list, sarge not stable i guess 🙂

    btw, thank you debian developers, another super release (used woody and sarge, but tested potato in my “early” linux days 😉 )

    – pah –

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    Subject: I sent a mail to Colin inquir
    Author: zigg
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/06/08 – 15:09
    I sent a mail to Colin inquiring about this; I didn’t want to go bursting onto a mailing list waving red flags if I didn’t understand some key point.

    Yeah, I’m happy to see the release too 🙂

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    Subject: Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
    Author: caribbean_geek
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/06/08 – 07:52
    Just what I’ve been waiting for
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    Subject: Yippeeee!!!
    Author: TekMate
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/06/08 – 02:24
    Great work to all the Debian developers.


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    Subject: good news !!!!!!!
    Author: manish_k_arya
    Date: Wednesday, 2005/06/08 – 06:20
    last night i was searching distros for my laptop on distrowatch suddenly i saw debian sarge release, i was waiting for this for months 🙂

    great job folks

    -Manish Kumar Arya
    LinuxIndia.net

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