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    What desktop environment or window manager are you using?
    Submitted by che on Friday, July 19, 2002 – 21:18
    X Window System

    GNOME 1.4
    16% (416 votes)
    GNOME 2
    17% (441 votes)
    KDE 2.2
    11% (301 votes)
    KDE 3
    21% (560 votes)
    Window Maker
    13% (348 votes)
    2% (48 votes)
    9% (239 votes)
    12% (314 votes)

    Total votes: 2667

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    Subject: Aqua for Enlightenment
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/27 – 07:20
    I still love “Aqua” for Enlightenment. Although for legal reasons it cannot be downloaded anymore, unless someone has a new url. I still have it on my system.
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    Subject: Scrolling Viewport
    Author: esekla
    Date: Thursday, 2002/07/25 – 16:01
    Which WMs support a scolling viewport (scrolling smoothly across multiple desktops, displaying parts of each simultaneously) and how do you enable such? Right now I use FVWM2 over planin old X for this, which lacks gnome or kde control panel integration. I have not been able to configure environment integration with a scrolling viewport so far but admittedly, I haven’t had much time to fiddle with things.
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    Subject: Switched to KDE 3
    Author: eb
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 09:07
    I had been using Gnome since version 0.30 but Gnome 2.0 disappointed me a lot, and I hate nautilus (it’s so slow…).

    Before KDE 3, I always thought that KDE had usability problems (at least for me): no decent terminal and no virtual desktops that you can switch by moving your mouse on the sides of the screen. Besides, I thought it was ugly (especially the icons).

    Luckily, these issues are now fixed, and if you install an icon theme it can be really beautiful.

    I doubt I’ll ever switch back to Gnome.

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    Subject: Re: What desktop environment or window manager are you using?
    Author: bluesmurf
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 11:11

    My ‘stable’ woody box runs GNOME 1.4, so thats what I use most.

    I tried KDE 3.0.1 with sid on my laptop, and even though its nice, KDE has never said much to me (I don’t know why…)

    Then I tried GNOME 2 on a Gentoo box, and I really liked it, the only bugger was the lacking of some apps, that still use GTK 1.2 (or is it 1.4?). But, nothing serious.

    Window Maker I use when I want something stylish and different, and BlackBox I use ever know and then.

    As from a year ago, I always ended up using IceWM, whatever the WM/Desktop I started with.
    But now Gnome seems to be my choice.

    I do try and test all the WM/Desktops I get my hands on, keeps me from getting bored 🙂

    I really love CDE but XFCE for some reason doesn’t convince me.

    Enlightenment I also use now and then, mainly when I want a 4DWM look (I love my 4DWM and MWM themes).

    Lately I have used a lot of MWM, the only thing I find missing is the pager.

    oh well, you *did* ask!

    bye, have fun


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    Subject: evilwm
    Author: Thing
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/22 – 20:52
    I just switched, and if you, like me, never really saw the point of the evil little rodent to your right (left if southpaw ;), but found that when you tried ratpoison you couldn’t actually do anything because you use the mouse for things like focus selection occasionaly, evilwm could be for you.

    It’s not in Debian yet, but it is aptable:

    deb http://evilwm.sourceforge.net/debian stable

    Have Fun!

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    Subject: Metacity & GNOME2
    Author: robster
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/22 – 12:27
    Hhhm. Metacity is just soo nice. Hhhhm, GNOME2 with the thinice theme is nice. =)


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    Subject: Metacity
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 10:23
    Hmmm…. after my install of Gnome2, a Metacity option was automatically added to my KDM menu, yet nothing loads when selecting it. I get stuck and have to ctrl-alt-delete.
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    Subject: I hope you mean…
    Author: robot101
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 10:52
    Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, which kills X, rather than your whole PC. Or you could Ctrl+Alt+F1 to log on on the console and kill whatever’s not working. Rebooting the whole PC is a bit extreme, and not the Linux Way (tm =).

    Robster is a monkey
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    Subject: ..
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 23:23
    Oh yeah, I meant CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE.

    CTRL-ALT-DELETE is normally used to log out of KDE, Enlightenment or shutdown from console.

    So Metacity isn’t a ‘real’ WM unless you give it a menu or bar of some sort?

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    Subject: Uh…
    Author: robot101
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 23:45
    Yes, it’s a window manager. It manages your windows. Launching programs is orthogonal. Get a GNOME panel or something.

    Robster is a monkey
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    Subject: Minimalist.
    Author: daniel@raging.dropbear.id.au
    Date: Tuesday, 2002/07/23 – 10:45
    Seeing as Metacity is minimalist (doesn’t provide a panel etc), how about you check to see whether it’s actually running or not? It’s probably running and managing windows, just there’s no windows to manage. 🙂
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    Subject: waimea all the way
    Author: skabber
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 20:04
    for any of you out there that like blackbox or fluxbox you should give waimea a try
    Its built of the same blackbox source but it supports transparency and antialiased fonts. Its pretty damn sweet.
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    Subject: waimea
    Author: tomun
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 20:35
    That does look nice. Thanks for the link.

    ooh and he provides a debian package too.
    Well its installed and looking nice, I just need to figure out how
    to configure it to make it more sawfish2 like..

    Thanks again.

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    Subject: Gnome2?
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 01:55
    Has anyone got Gnome2 to work with anything other than gdm? I installed all the packages from ‘experimental’ and added ‘gnome-session’ to my KDM, and Gnome2 kinda starts, but fails to bring up the gnome-panel2.

    BTW, I prefer Enlightenment as my Window Manager, although KDE3 is also nice. However, since using KDE3, I have no KOffice. 🙁

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    Subject: KOffice 1.2, kdegames, etc .debs
    Author: DanielS
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/22 – 10:54
    Have a look at http://calc.cx/kde.txt for a list of the various sources for KDE3 .debs of KOffice, kdegames, kdevelop, etc, from the relevant maintainers (Ben Burton, Daniel Schepler, and Norman Johnson, off the top of my head). These .debs are all from KDE 3.0, and work with Chris’s packages.
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    Subject: gnome2 + kdm – works fine
    Author: howama
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 10:08
    It worked fine for me, but switching to gdm made it a whole lot faster (~20s off login time. now ~3 seconds).
    This was with the kde/kdm from sid (i.e. not kde3)

    Mark Howard
    mh at…

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    Subject: Any tips on how to get it to
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 23:08
    Any tips on how to get it to work with kdm? I understand that “gnome-session” is not the official/preferred/most efficient method of starting gnome2?

    Is it sufficient to install on Woody, but adding “sid” and “experimental” to /etc/apt/sources.list ?

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    Subject: KDE3
    Author: che
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 16:52
    At the time of writing 21% says it uses KDE3. I wonder where doest it come from. Compile? Calc’s experimental packages? Other?


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    Subject: Here:
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 01:48
    deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
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    Subject: my desk
    Author: termos
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 14:18
    Check my PWM desktop at http://termos.org/debdesk.png
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    Subject: Re: my desk.
    Author: trench
    Date: Monday, 2003/03/03 – 16:02
    The link is dead 🙂
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    Subject: I switch back and forth…
    Author: goneaway
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 07:59
    but lately the old wrists have been aching so it’s Ion all the way so I don’t have to shift between mouse and keyboard quite so much.
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    Subject: Other
    Author: klaro
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 07:36
    enlightenment with the gnome panel
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    Subject: Bingo..
    Author: molo
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 20:17
    Yes, E16 + Gnome Panel is perfect for me. Easy launching of apps, E16 for customized theme, and it makes X11 a great xterm multiplexer. 🙂
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    Subject: cowboy neal
    Author: fork
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 04:34
    I only use console on my server, but i like KDE 3 😉
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    Subject: as cold as ice…
    Author: zadok
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 02:46
    icewm under xdirectfb =)


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    Subject: what about…
    Author: jantho
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 02:05
    fvwm all the way!
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    Subject: This is a good point, too. fv
    Author: rich4421972
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/22 – 19:35
    This is a good point, too. fvwm is probably the most lightweight and configurable of the window managers
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    Subject: Anybody got a cool .fvwm2rc?
    Author: klaus
    Date: Thursday, 2002/07/25 – 19:45
    I have been using it since my first steps in linux in 94 and it’s still my favourite.
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    Subject: What about Safwish?
    Author: ilmari
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 02:02
    That’s right, The One and Only Lisp-extensible and -programmable window manager with GTK+ 2.0 goodness 🙂
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    Subject: Hell yeah.
    Author: Dast
    Date: Wednesday, 2002/07/24 – 23:16
    Just sawfish by itself. No pager, no icons, no garbage. Just a window manager. It has all of the options I want. The only problem I have every now and then is with focus. Things that should get the focus don’t.

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    Subject: GNU Screen
    Author: Miciah
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 00:51
    GNU Screen.

    None better.

     — Miciah <miciah@myrealbox.com>

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    Subject: ratpoison
    Author: memmett
    Date: Saturday, 2002/07/20 – 00:10
    my favorite desktop environment is ratpoison (apt-get install ratpoison)

    from the website (ratpoison.sf.net):

    Ratpoison is a simple Window Manager with no fat library dependencies, no fancy graphics, no window decorations, and no rodent dependence. It is largely modelled after GNU Screen which has done wonders in virtual terminal market.

    All windows are maximized and kept maximized to take full advantage of your precious screen real estate.

    All interaction with the window manager is done through keystrokes. ratpoison has a prefix map to minimize the key clobbering that cripples Emacs and other quality pieces of software.

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    Subject: how does that compare to
    Author: Caoilte
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/21 – 22:06
    how does that compare to ion?
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    Subject: Other
    Author: Trevelyan
    Date: Friday, 2002/07/19 – 22:27
    I use e16 on one screen (:0.0), and pwm on the other (:0.1) (dual head)

    I know pwm not that common, but i was suprised enlightenment wasn’t listed.

    If XFCE gets any, I bet they from a SUN/Solaris and CDE background, I only ever met hard core sun users that put up with cde’s interface.

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    Subject: XFCE isn’t so bad…
    Author: Xantar
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/22 – 12:43
    I actually quite liked XFCE, until I got used to FluxBox. I do not come from a Solaris background and didn’t know anything about CDE until after I had tried XFCE — I used to be a Windows user (then when my Windows box died, Gnome).

    Ask me the same question a week ago and I would have happily said “I am a XFCE user” but am now hooked on FluxBox.

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    Subject: PWM?
    Author: termos
    Date: Friday, 2002/07/19 – 22:16
    There was a choice for XFCE, but not for PWM?
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    Subject: heh, was my first thought, to
    Author: Stoerte
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/22 – 17:38
    heh, was my first thought, too.
    PWM rocks.


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