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    Woody retrospective and Sarge introspective
    Submitted by robster on Saturday, July 27, 2002 – 09:39
    Sarge“The battle’s done, and we kinda won,
    So we sound our victory cheer:
    Where do we go from here?”

    Anthony “aj” Towns has posted this message to the debian-project mailing list (non-technical discussions) about where we’ve been (Woody’s testing) and where we’re going (Sarge’s testing). The innards of the Woody release cycle are picked apart and scavenged from; the juicy succulent bits are kept, the gristle is left as a reminder. He further goes on to discuss what he would like to see from Sarge’s testing including regular CD builds using jigdo, debian-installer and fun with multiple architectures. Aj suggests that: The way I would like to see sarge run is basically to get it to “roughly” releasable status ASAP then keep it there.

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    Subject: apt-get downloads from cron
    Author: mgedmin
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/28 – 12:10
    Just curious — what’s wrong with just using apt-get dist-upgrade –download-only and relying on /var/cache/apt/archives?

    Here’s a script I put in /usr/local/sbin/apt-checkupdates that is run from cron every night on all the servers I administer:

    #!/bin/sh
    # A script to download available Debian updates and list packages that
    # will be updated. Designed to be quiet enough to be run from cron.
    #
    # Copyright (c) 2002 Marius Gedminas
    # Licensed under the GNU GPL.

    apt-get update -qq
    apt-get dist-upgrade -d -u -y -q | fgrep -v "Reading Package Lists...
    Building Dependency Tree...
    0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Download complete and in download only mode"
    exit 0

    I get an e-mail every time a server needs upgrading and all the packages are already in /var/cache/apt/archives so I don’t have to wait when I ssh to do the upgrade.

    Marius Gedminas

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    Subject: two spaces..
    Author: inan
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/28 – 23:48
    FYI, the third to last line in the script actually has two spaces in it:
    … and 0[space][space]-not upgraded.
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    Subject: different solution to a different problem
    Author: undefined
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/28 – 20:01
    nothing wrong with that, as long as you don’t want a mirror of the archives and don’t mind storing everything in /var. i’m guessing you have broadband (where every server downloading the same package doesn’t matter) or you have an apt-proxy running. i didn’t have enough machines to justify an apt-proxy (just a laptop and a desktop, though the desktop rarely gets used anymore since i’ve got my laptop working smoothly and just don’t have time to fiddle with more than one machine), but i still occassionally wanted the same packages on both (like when the laptop was in the shop).

    i wanted a large long-term package mirror, and that’s what i gave pointers for. if all you want to do is “apt-get dist-upgrade –download-only”, then your script works great.

    i wanted to retain the packages for a long time, somewhere with more space than i originally allocated for /var (as i currently have 3 gigs in packages, and that’s only retaining the last two versions of every package i’ve installed; i need to write a script to delete, or at least list, packages that i no longer have installed but at one time did and that’s how they got mirrored), for purposes of reverting to a previous version (testing still sees bugs) or for reinstalling should my / or /usr partition become hosed. (this is of course on top of the obvious advantage that i can install the same packages to all/any of my computers, though only download the package once.)

    my requirements are just a little more than your’s, which is why i needed more than your script.

    ps is it intentional that with dp’s move to druple (sp) that replies to comments no longer have the subject of the original comment, but instead a blank subject?

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    Subject: Very handy
    Author: Psiren
    Date: Sunday, 2002/07/28 – 15:39
    Nice little script. I’ve just installed it on my home server, and will do the same for my servers at work on Monday. Cheers! =)
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