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    Yes, Gnome 2 is Released and available on Debian
    Submitted by robot101 on Thursday, June 27, 2002 – 22:15
    GNOMEThanks to the 5 people who posted in info and links about this. GNOME 2 released yesterday, the details are here. Thankfully Debian’s GNOME maintainers have been working away on these packages in the experimental archive of Debian, so as shown by Christian Marillat’s daily status reports, a lot of the packaging work is already done. Bastien Nocera (hadess) has released instructions for getting these GNOME 2 packages going on your Debian box. Great work folks!
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    Subject: KDE3 and Gnome2
    Author: Anonymous
    Date: Sunday, 2002/06/30 – 05:44
    Has anyone got both KDE3 and Gnome2 working on the same machine? KDE3 works fine, but Gnome2 still won’t successfully manage a session. Even tried update-alternatives --config x-window-manager and update-alternatives --config x-session-manager. No joy. No panel.
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    Subject: Where’s the status dock ?
    Author: fmarier
    Date: Saturday, 2002/06/29 – 19:10
    Is there a status dock in GNOME 2 ?

    If so, where is it ?

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    Subject: Wheres my gnome-panel?
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Saturday, 2002/06/29 – 01:32
    I have upgraded to gnome2. Have installed gnome-session2, gnome-panel2 and etc. However, when I start a gnome-session, I am missing the gnome-panel. I used update-alternatives --config x-window-manager to finally get the correct Window Manager to arrive, but no panel.

    I have tried startx and then gnome-session. The gnome-session starts, but no panel. Tried starting gnome-session from KDM, same thing.

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    Subject: Re: Yes, Gnome 2 is Released and available on Debian
    Author: ShOOf
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 18:09
    So when gnome2 eventually makes into into sid, and i do an upgrade will it try to take over gnome1.4? and if so how will i stop it, i installed gnome2 and its nice and all but it still lacks the promised multihead support, so i had to go back to 1.4 which you can trick into multihead.
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    Subject: Re: Yes, Gnome 2 is Released and available on Debian
    Author: tonyhoyle
    Date: Saturday, 2002/06/29 – 19:16
    It already puts half of itself into gnome. Gnome in sid is pretty broken right now… it doesn’t know whether it’s 1.4 or 2.0, and there is no option not to install the gnome2 bits (which seem to amount to hiding all the configuration options so, for example, it’s impossible to select other than the default theme, or change the font from ‘fixed/courier’).

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    Subject: Gnome 2 on Woody.
    Author: Kerensky
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 17:57
    Hi!

    Is it possible to install Gnome 2 on woody? The instructions say:

    Prerequisites
    Be running Debian UNSTABLE. Not Woody, not potato, only unstable.

    It’d be okay to install some packages from unstable, but what is the minimum?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Subject: Re: Gnome 2 on Woody.
    Author: rich4421972
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 19:24
    I think what he means is that if you have your woody sources active when you take the sources that he provides, the woody tree will cause you to not get the proper dependencies. In the sources he gives, you need some really up-to-date files that are only available in experimental. For example, nautilus 2 needs a whole new set of sound libraries not to mention a few other things that are brand new (like gnome-panel-data2). When I did this, I uncommented my unstable line in my sources.list and then just added his lines. After that I ran:
    apt-get update
    apt-get install -t experimental gnome2 gnome-panel2 gnome-utils

    and so on and so on until I satisfied all the dependencies.

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    Subject: Re: Gnome 2 on Woody.
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Saturday, 2002/06/29 – 00:39
    I got it all installed ok, but the damn gnome-panel2 won’t appear. All I get is a splash-screen, background color change, and an xterm. Dang! I tried started ‘gnome-session’ via both KDM, and with no DM installed (ie: startx && gnome-session). Wassup with this?

    The only thing I haven’t tried is installing gdm.

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    Subject: Re: Gnome 2 on Woody.
    Author: slimy
    Date: Saturday, 2002/06/29 – 09:06
    i had some fun working out what to do. In the end I just sorted out some /etc/alternatives and it all got better… fix x-session-manager as well as x-window-manager:

    • update-alternatives –config x-window-manager
    • update-alternatives –config x-session-manager
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    Subject: Re: Gnome 2 on Woody.
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Sunday, 2002/06/30 – 05:46
    Tried that. No joy. Also switched from kde3 to gnome-session as the default x-session-manager. Still no panel. Requires a ctrl-alt-backspace to exit the session. Logging out of the window manager, shuts the window manager, but gnome-session stays. 🙁
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    Subject: gdm 2.4
    Author: mlei
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 16:47
    Hi guys… I built some gdm 2.4 packages for i386 (and the source is there too to build it for your own platform)

    http://mlei.mtmis.com/debian

    I didn’t spend too much time on them, but they should work. I think the documentation didn’t get packaged correctly.

    After installing, get some themes from Sunshine in a Bag.

    Let me know of any success stories, or if pou can figure out where the documentation has gone to and fix the package…

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    Subject: Re: gdm 2.4
    Author: XaRz
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/01 – 11:07
    Hi mlei,
    I tried to install gdm 2.4 from your site. I have debian sid installed and gnome2 working one week ago (from experimetal sources).
    I can’t be able to install your gdm package. The message is that I have libpam0g 0.72 and the gdm2.4 needs 0.75 version.
    here you have the log:
    ——–
    dpkg -i gdm_2.4.0.0-0.1_i386.deb
    (Leyendo la base de datos …
    72543 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
    Preparando para reemplazar gdm 2.2.5.5-2 (usando gdm_2.4.0.0-0.1_i386.deb) …
    Desempaquetando el reemplazo de gdm …
    dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuración de gdm:
    gdm depende de libpam0g (>= 0.75); sin embargo:
    Versión de libpam0g en el sistema es 0.72-35.
    dpkg: error al procesar gdm (–install):
    problemas de dependencias – se deja sin configurar
    Se encontraron errores al procesar:
    gdm
    ———
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    Subject: Re: gdm 2.4
    Author: mlei
    Date: Thursday, 2002/07/04 – 00:28
    apt-get the libpam0g from experimental, and then try installing the package. Good luck!
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    Subject: Re: gdm 2.4
    Author: RazorBlade
    Date: Thursday, 2002/07/04 – 03:58
    Hi mlei,

    This worked perfectly 🙂 gdm 2.4 has installed properly and there are no configuration issues. Thank you for your help!

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    Subject: Re: Yes, Gnome 2 is Released and available on Debian
    Author: MrHanky
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 02:34
    I’m using Gnome 2 right now, and I think it’s a step in the right direction. I used Gnome 1.2, but thought 1.4 was a lot worse, so I’ve been using KDE since that was at 2.1. Good to be back 🙂

    But I’ve got one problem: anti-aliased fonts. How do I enable them? The control center doesn’t seem to work, and putting an “export GDK_USE_XFT=1” in ~/.bashrc only enables it for apps I start from an xterm…

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    Subject: Re: Yes, Gnome 2 is Released and available on Debian
    Author: harves
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 05:49
    I read somewhere that this is the correct way to do it. Add the line:

    export GDK_USE_XFT=1

    to a file called .gnomerc in your home directory. It’s read by the /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome startup script.

    According to the documentation I read there is supposed to be another line below that like “exec gnome-session”, but you don’t need it because that happens automatically with the gdm script.

    Hope that helps,
    Harves.

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    Subject: Re: Yes, Gnome 2 is Released and available on Debian
    Author: lordsutch
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 05:11
    Try creating a .xsession file in $HOME containing:

    #!/bin/sh
    GDK_USE_XFT=1
    export GDK_USE_XFT
    exec ssh-agent gnome-session

    Then just choose the “default” session in your display manager.

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    Subject: how does experimental work
    Author: slimy
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 00:48
    this is the first time i’ve come across experimental. how does it integrate with unstable/testing?

    • when gnome2 gets into unstable will I upgrade automatically?
    • to upgrade to a later version in experimental does ‘apt-get upgrade -t experimental’ work?

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    Subject: Re: how does experimental work
    Author: robot101
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 01:31
    If something newer turns up in unstable, it will disappear from experimental and you should upgrade to it without problems, unless you did something strange like pin apt to experimental.

    If you have apt pinned to unstable, and you have experimental lines in your sources.list, apt-get -t experimental will do what you expect. If you don’t pin apt to unstable or anything else (with APT::Default-Release) then you will go with the newer stuff in experimental when it exists.

    Regards,
    Rob

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    Subject: Re: how does experimental work
    Author: phi
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 09:03
    I’ve apt sources pinned to the unstable CDs and added the sources for gnome. But when I try to apt-get install I get a couple of unmet dependencies. Is that because I’ve not any experimental sources in my sources.list (sorry, if this question sounds stupid to you, but I’m pretty new to debian).

    Thanx,
    phi

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    Subject: Re: how does experimental work
    Author: robot101
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 12:05
    Uh, most of the GNOME sources are in experimental. You will need to -t experimental to make them installable.
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    Subject: Re: how does experimental work
    Author: robot101
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 12:08
    Oh, and that’s not pinning. Pinning is when you modify apt’s package choosing engine by giving a higher priority to the release you want to run (eg testing) so you can add releases you don’t want to run (eg unstable) to your sources.list so you’re able to periodically grab newer packages from there. The easiest way this can be done is APT::Default-Release “testing”; or “unstable”; in /etc/apt/apt.conf.

    If your only unstable source is a set of CDs, these will be, by definition, partially outdated already. Add an unstable mirror line below the CD lines in your sources.list to provide any new packages. If sources have the same version of packages, apt will use the higher ones in the list.

    Rob

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    Subject: Wrong WindowManager
    Author: phi
    Date: Friday, 2002/06/28 – 15:08
    Thanks, now I’m a know more! I managed to install GNOME2, BUT:
    Gnome uses the TWM WindowManager and not sawfish – even though in /etc/gnome/default.wm it says
    [Default]
    WM=sawfish

    Any hints?

    Thanx,
    phi

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    Subject: Re: Wrong WindowManager
    Author: steveha
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/01 – 19:29
    Gnome uses the TWM WindowManager and not sawfish

    This happened to me.

    It turned out that GNOME 2 was having a problem with my X config, and for some reason was dropping into TWM (as some sort of emergency fallback). I was manually exiting TWM, leaving me with no WM, and then manually starting up Sawfish.

    But the fix turned out to be editing my XF86Config-4 file. I have a very high resolution display, and under GNOME 1.x I had my config set up to report a very large number of dots per inch, because I wanted really large fonts. (I have something like 110, and I had it set to 220 or so.) When I changed my config to correctly report the number of dots per inch on my display, GNOME 2 stopped going into TWM.

    So, my advice is to check for some config error in your X.

    You might try looking in /var/log to see if any log files have any helpful error messages. I don’t think I found any with my problem, but maybe you will.

    Good luck.

    steveha

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    Subject: TWM
    Author: djsmeg
    Date: Monday, 2002/07/01 – 19:46
    I enocuntered exactly these problems myself installing the gnome2 stuff.

    I tried killing twm manually, starting sawfish, and then saving my session, with the amusing effect of getting login errors (two window managers? 🙂

    In the end, since twm is only useful for really really old systems or gurus (neither of which applies) I just uninstalled it and it went away.

    apt-get -t experimental remove twm

    This should solve all your problems (assuming you have installed sawfish 🙂

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    Subject: Re: Wrong WindowManager
    Author: lordsutch
    Date: Saturday, 2002/06/29 – 00:24
    You probably need to go into “Session Properties & Startup Programs” and futz around a bit.

    Either that or do an update-alternatives --update x-window-manager.

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    Subject: Re: Wrong WindowManager
    Author: grolschie
    Date: Saturday, 2002/06/29 – 01:27

    Either that or do an update-alternatives --update x-window-manager.

    Make that update-alternatives --config x-window-manager.

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